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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Because I love him and need the companionship
    But what about his great tool?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    But what about his great tool?
    He is multi talented and has many great tools, physically and intellectually.

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    He is multi talented and has many great tools, physically and intellectually.
    I wish you two all the happiness in the world.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    I wish you two all the happiness in the world.
    No, sorry, it is illegal to marry in TX which is fine because I support the laws of the state. If I didn't I would move. Love the economic opportunities here and economic success makes things a lot easier

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    I don't mistake it at all, it is Freedom OF Religion NOT Freedom FROM religion but I really need some help, I have read the Constitution and I must be missing it with all the passion here but please point to me the line in the Constitution that talks about Marriage? I was always taught that if it wasn't in the Constitution it was a state issue and thus not governed by the Constitution. Equal protection only applies to issues in the Constitution
    Wrong. The 14th Amendment's Equal Protection clause states that no state may make a law which denies equal access, under the law, to residents of their or any other state. The 14th Amendment is the reason why you can be a licensed driver in Virginia, and not need to get a new license for driving in Maryland. The Virginia law (which grants you a driver's license) must be recognized by Maryland.

    Likewise, the law which grants marriage must not deny equal access to the law to a segment of the population. This was the reason why interracial marriage bans were deemed unconstitutional and why same-sex marriage bans are equally unconstitutional.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Just as God intended!! You don't believe in God, fine, take that position up with your "creator."
    My creators were my mother and father. They know I'm not Christian, and don't care. So, there we go.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Wrong. The 14th Amendment's Equal Protection clause states that no state may make a law which denies equal access, under the law, to residents of their or any other state. The 14th Amendment is the reason why you can be a licensed driver in Virginia, and not need to get a new license for driving in Maryland. The Virginia law (which grants you a driver's license) must be recognized by Maryland.

    Likewise, the law which grants marriage must not deny equal access to the law to a segment of the population. This was the reason why interracial marriage bans were deemed unconstitutional and why same-sex marriage bans are equally unconstitutional.
    Sorry but you have equal access just like I do. Marriage isn't defined in the Constitution, Marriage isn't a civil right, it is state law controlled by the states. Some have changed their laws. You don't like the laws of your state move to one more suitable to you. The SC has upheld the states' rights to make their laws and have never ruled on the definition of marriage. Keep doing what you are doing and you are forcing the people to do it for you.

    You misinterpret Loving vs. Va because that is what you want to believe. That was totally about race discrimination, not marriage. Both heterosexual couples were adhering to the laws of the state and were being denied solely on the basis of race

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    My creators were my mother and father. They know I'm not Christian, and don't care. So, there we go.
    Well, there you go, probably why you are so unhappy and miserable spending all your time in a political debate forum trying to sell your ideology to others. Always can tell a liberal, the most unhappy group I have ever seen

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    No, this is incorrect. In previous studies, the control group was chosen from only mental health patients and criminals. This creates bias if one is studying mental health, as the participants already have mental health issues. To eliminate this, it is obvious that one chooses people who are specifically NOT mental health patients or criminals.

    Hmmm... Sorry CC, but DV is actually correct. He is using the same measure, and it appears although maybe I read you wrong but you seem to be missing his point. In your above scenario, if a study wanted to show that a certain behavior has no adverse or mental effects on the one engaging in the behavior, one would expect that they could accomplish this by avoiding participants that have no expressed or reported mental health issues. I mean, that's just pretty basic logic. In the converse, if one wanted to show the opposite, then the opposite group would contain participants that did in fact express reported mental health effects. The Hooker study was the first of its kind in that it took participants that "self-reported" no adverse effects from homosexuality. All the studies that lead up to her study selected participants from groups that did report adverse effects.


    One does NOT select people from the general population as if one does, one cannot control for the potential bias that will confound the results. You STILL don't understand the study, even though I've now explained it to you several times.

    Well, I think you have it backwards, frankly. Ideally, one would select blindly from the general, administer the questions before controlling for the variables. So as an example, one might approach it this way.

    1. Select 1000 random people (College kids looking for money are a good source)
    2. Administer questions with the purpose of identifying mental issues assign a number to each participant's answers.
    3. Take background information from the participants, identifying the variables of each participant. Age, sex, sexual orientation, etc..
    4. Place similarly situated participants together as control groups and apply the results in a statistical model looking for correlations that are significant.






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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Well, there you go, probably why you are so unhappy and miserable spending all your time in a political debate forum trying to sell your ideology to others. Always can tell a liberal, the most unhappy group I have ever seen
    Aww, aren't you adorable, with your ad homs and hasty generalizations. I'm actually quite happy in my life, thank you. Oh, and if you look to the left, right under my name and avatar, you'll see "Libertarian" not "Liberal." Remember, Reading is Fundamental!
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