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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There's only evidence that homosexual behavior exists, and that it's a natural phenomena.

    There's zero evidence of rigid gender-restricted sexuality, which is what being "gay" entails.
    so sexual orientation is made up by the medical community? links? facts?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    so sexual orientation is made up by the medical community? links? facts?
    Sexual orientation is not made up, but such an orientation is a complex component of a person's psyche.

    Accordingly, the notion that it consists of a simple binary classification based on an attraction toward one or the other gender is false. . .

    "Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity."

    Levay, Simon (1996). Queer Science: The Use and Abuse of Research into Homosexuality. Cambridge, Massachusetts: MIT Press. p. 207.

    Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Of course, the fact that these animals engage in homosexual sex implies that pure heterosexuality is also a rarity.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Queer theory is currently the most scientifically valid description of sexuality, based on all available evidence of human and animal sexual behavior.

    The whole "gay" vs. "straight" separation is just popular claptrap--a relic of a time when there was tremendous discrimination against homosexual acts.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Of course, the fact that these animals engage in homosexual sex implies that pure heterosexuality is also a rarity.
    still waiting for factual proof that the medical community just made up sexual orentation
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    still waiting for factual proof that the medical community just made up sexual orentation
    If you're defining sexual orientation to mean either "gay" or "straight", then the article cited above proves that it's false, since none of those animals observed restricted their mating habits purely to one gender or the other.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Sexual orientation is not made up, but such an orientation is a complex component of a person's psyche.
    so sexual orientation does, exist

    thanks we knew that already
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Sexual orientation is not made up, but such an orientation is a complex component of a person's psyche.

    Accordingly, the notion that it consists of a simple binary classification based on an attraction toward one or the other gender is false. . .



    Of course, the fact that these animals engage in homosexual sex implies that pure heterosexuality is also a rarity.
    Your are mistaking action for orientation. Homosexuals are perfectly capable of having sex with those of the opposite sex, just as heterosexuals are perfectly capable of having sex with those of the same sex. There are multiple reasons to do so that have nothing to do with orientation, such as establishing dominance, sexual release in the absence of your prefered gender, and so on. All that can be reasonably said is that animals engage in sexual acts with those of the same gender. However, we can also say that humans have very definite orientation, and it is clearly defined.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    If you're defining sexual orientation to mean either "gay" or "straight", then the article cited above proves that it's false, since none of those animals observed restricted their mating habits purely to one gender or the other.
    sorry theres nothing you posted that FACTUALLY proves sexual orientation does not exist . . . nothing
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    so sexual orientation does, exist

    thanks we knew that already
    Did you know that it does not mean "gay" or "straight", i. e. being attracted only to the same gender or to the opposite one?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    sorry theres nothing you posted that FACTUALLY proves sexual orientation does not exist . . . nothing
    You seem to have a reading problem. Read what I wrote before replying to it.

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