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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Interesting development. The important thing here seems to be that VW wanted a union so that could have worker's councils like they have in Germany. The trouble is that under the Wagner Act you can't have worker's councils without a union.

    Hopefully, VW will institute workers councils and some union will sue and the Supreme Court will overturn that part of the Wagner Act. It seems anti-labor to disallow worker involvement in the running of a plant simply because it is non-unionized. The workers come first, not the union.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    don't waste time on the anti-labor crowd.

    the agenda that they support will shut them out, and the people whom they spend so much time defending will actively work against letting them in.

    me, i'm bothered that their kids and grandkids will have to work in the labor environment that they create. mine will, too. hopefully, the kiddos will be smarter than we are.
    Working conditions? Do you pay attention to the statistics between UAW controlled auto plants and non-uaw plants? Toyota has a plant here in San Antonio... it's one the best jobs in the city if you can land one. No Union, and the workers are very happy.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    How strange when turkeys vote for Christmas.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since the only liars in this event were GOP politicians, that would make you the liar.

    Once again, no proof will be found for the UAW thugging in Tennessee as Corker, Norquist and Haslam did--Lie #2.

    You mean the out-sourcing of American jobs overseas due to GOP policies--Lie #3 .


    You know, joining the abject liars from the Unions, by adding more lies of your own, is not going to win the argument.

    For example, the lie about Volkswagen accepting union action. Why are you and the rest of the union support puppet network hiding the fact that Volkswagon had a gun put to their head by the largest labor union in Germany IG Metall, who hold half the seats on their supervisory board? Why hide that? Doesn't fit the narrative that Volkswagen is "union friendly"

    Why hide the millions and millions the Unions and their puppets stole from membership elsewhere to fund the manipulation and threatening they did in Tennessee?

    As to the outsourcing pile of poop Proglibbies like to lie about, why not start with the real reason, Union greed. Google is your friend, and it will take you to the truth. Goodle 1959 US Steel Strike, and the effect it had on imported goods.

    You're welcome to remain ignorant, and just another purveyor of lies, but you may not want to be so public about it.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Good for the workers voting down unionization.


    I must say though, that this is really weird.
    The workers not wanting a union, but the company does.

    What will this topsy turvery world produce next?
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    No, I'm flat out stating that Grover Norquist continues to be the ahole he's always been, using your language.
    That the words ahole and dupe would come to your typing is quite telling.

    Along with the lying Sen. Corker and Gov. Haslam, who VW had to publicly correct several times.
    Now tell me how those NON-Union plants in North Carolina dumping coal ash into the waters are doing right now in federal court.
    See ya Gov. McCrory.

    And nice job by the NON-Union companies fouling water in West Virginia for 300,000 folks.
    Those people are still melting snow to take a bath .
    Perhaps the workers, who live in a heavily Republican area and many of whom are Republicans, simply didn't care to pay union dues which would be earmarked to help finance Democratic candidates and Democratic campaigns.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What does that even mean? Unions have been falling out of favor with WORKERS for a generation. Unions are not necessary any more and that is why they have been reduced largely to the public sector. The ones who benefit the most from unionization are not the workers but liberal politicians who can count on the campaign donations confiscated from the union members. If people felt unions were a benefit to them, they would be growing. They are not.

    This isn't 1930 any more. Liberals still live in the New Deal, FDR, union and public works mindset. The world has moved on. Time to catch up.
    I like libertarian bedtime stories, but it's still too early in the day.

    My favorite is when something happens and you guys get kicked out of your comfortable jobs due to eroding job security. I've heard some libertarians turn into Eugene V. Debs on internal corporate boards. Lol. "I've got mine; **** you" works pretty well until the tide comes in. Also, your kid is going to feel a lot different about laissez fairy tales.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Working conditions? Do you pay attention to the statistics between UAW controlled auto plants and non-uaw plants? Toyota has a plant here in San Antonio... it's one the best jobs in the city if you can land one. No Union, and the workers are very happy.

    VW doesn't seem to care if they organize; why do you? It's mostly just the Tennessee anti labor movement and fox news that is freaking out. Why not just stay out of it and let the parties involved settle it?

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    VW doesn't seem to care if they organize; why do you? It's mostly just the Tennessee anti labor movement and fox news that is freaking out. Why not just stay out of it and let the parties involved settle it?
    They did. Love the dishonest abuse of the English language you utilize. Who is anti-labour? Anti-union does not equate anti-labour. Just thought id call out your bull****.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They did. Love the dishonest abuse of the English language you utilize. Who is anti-labour? Anti-union does not equate anti-labour. Just thought id call out your bull****.

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    every time the word "union" comes up, be it it public or private, you all swarm in and start bashing labor.

    i'm not for giving unions everything they want and choking companies to death. however, i'm also not for depressed wages and low job security, either. i don't want my kid to grow up in a world where it's "good job, you're fired, independent contractor," and multiple part time jobs with ****ty wages and ****tier hours. that's where we're going. for some of us, that's where we're at. the balance of power between employer and employee is very skewed right now, and needs a correction. labor organization is the best way to get there.

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