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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You're welcome. My nephew is a meat cutter there and loves it. They did have some problems they worked out when they had the changing of the guards. I don't know the specifics.
    Even the union stores here (Dominicks and Jewel) got rid of the meat cutters unions long ago. They made some serious bank, from what I understand. Now they outsource most of the cutting to non-union cutters.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Thank you. sounds like they had some contentious negotiations with the union a few years ago.
    yep because they are in financial trouble. they can't keep up with all the payments and pensions. they will probably go under.
    you can't pay a cashier 20/30 bucks an hour and be able to keep prices affordable same as a bag boy. those positions just don't qualify for that type of pay.

    so when these guys lose their job I wonder how the union will help them then.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Even the union stores here (Dominicks and Jewel) got rid of the meat cutters unions long ago. They made some serious bank, from what I understand. Now they outsource most of the cutting to non-union cutters.
    Stop & Shop is fully unionized. Not just the meat cutters.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yep because they are in financial trouble. they can't keep up with all the payments and pensions. they will probably go under.
    you can't pay a cashier 20/30 bucks an hour and be able to keep prices affordable same as a bag boy. those positions just don't qualify for that type of pay.

    so when these guys lose their job I wonder how the union will help them then.
    Stop & Shop is not in financial trouble.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Stop & Shop is not in financial trouble.
    I truly don't know if they are or not. They are owned by a dutch company, which makes it difficult to locate financial info on them... But this is normally not a positive sign:

    Stop & Shop Supermarket Co. Discloses Plans to Close Six Stop & Shop Stores and Three Gas Stations in New Hampshire

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    Stop & Shop Supermarket Co. disclosed its plans to close its six Stop & Shop stores and three gas stations in New Hampshire because they are not achieving performance goals. The closings are scheduled to occur on or before September 21, 2013. The stores are located in Bedford, Hudson, Exeter, Milford, and Manchester.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I truly don't know if they are or not. They are owned by a dutch company, which makes it difficult to locate financial info on them... But this is normally not a positive sign:
    Nah, other stores have done this same thing here and in the south, union and nonunion. They consolidate, buy each other out, close down the least productive stores etc....that is nothing new nor immune to any business model. Even Walmart closes many of its least productive locations.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Nah, other stores have done this same thing here and in the south, union and nonunion. They consolidate, buy each other out, close down the least productive stores etc....that is nothing new nor immune to any business model. Even Walmart closes many of its least productive locations.
    I will completely admit I do not know.. But leaving an entire state.. Still doesn't sounds all that healthy. But, again - WTH would I know about what's going on up there and there just isn't a lot of news on Stop and Shop that I can locate- other than the labor unrest from a few years ago and leaving NH and the number of stores they have (300 and something).

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I will completely admit I do not know.. But leaving an entire state.. Still doesn't sounds all that healthy. But, again - WTH would I know about what's going on up there and there just isn't a lot of news on Stop and Shop that I can locate- other than the labor unrest from a few years ago and leaving NH and the number of stores they have (300 and something).
    They haven't closed stores in this area. A lot of times, stores are more vulnerable in certain areas more so than others. Depressed areas are very vulnerable for obvious reasons. Where I lived down south, it was horrible.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Volkswagen later denied Corkerís statement that expansion at the plant was dependent on a no-union vote. Other state lawmakers threatened to cut off tax incentives for the plant if workers unionized.

    That's what you call scummy.
    Or reasonable. Why should the state give its political enemies tax incentives? Unions, in general, are damaging to the places that let them in.

    Public sector unions are the worst. But any union becomes a political instrument and a steady funding source for the enemies of liberty and individual freedom.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    But any union becomes a political instrument and a steady funding source for the enemies of liberty and individual freedom.

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