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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    Why is it so hard to admit that private sector unions simply don't have that much to offer nowadays?
    Unions, inequality, and faltering middle-class wages | Economic Policy Institute

    I guess you have to be specific what they don't offer. Higher pay, better benefits, more time off etc.

    Hell...that's even accounting for the fact that union membership is dominated by only a couple of sectors and union wages influence non-union prices. For example...a Toyota plant in North Carolina can't keep it's staff if it pays much below union wages.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Which is another way of saying it never works.
    You may have a point

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    "If you like your UAW, you can keep your UAW."

    "My UAW plan will save every family $2,500!"
    What is your point?

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    What is your point?
    If you are worried about the morality of the American political system, I think you should stop obsessing about Bob Corker and pay attention to the real problems.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by wbcoleman View Post
    If you are worried about the morality of the American political system, I think you should stop obsessing about Bob Corker and pay attention to the real problems.
    Corker and a few other Repub politicians are but an example so you can't ignore them, especially since they are the topic of the discussion. I don't disagree our American political system is a mess. We can't permit this kind of corruption in our system.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Corker and a few other Repub politicians are but an example so you can't ignore them, especially since they are the topic of the discussion. I don't disagree our American political system is a mess. We can't permit this kind of corruption in our system.
    You have not identified any corruption. Corker's actions in this matter were/are above reproach.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You have not identified any corruption. Corker's actions in this matter were/are above reproach.
    Yeah, sure they were

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah, sure they were
    The record is clear.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Corker and a few other Repub politicians are but an example so you can't ignore them, especially since they are the topic of the discussion. I don't disagree our American political system is a mess. We can't permit this kind of corruption in our system.
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    I agree we can't permit this type of corruption in our system at all.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    That's what you call complete desperation. Keep constructing that strawman

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