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Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat[W:600]

Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

rabbitcaebannog said:
Yes, because Corker not Obama is the subject of the thread.
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Corker is NOT the subject of the thread and, in fact, Obama is far more relevant to the actual subject, the UAW defeat in Chatanooga. Corker was at best a bit player, Obama's entire union strategy suffered a massive defeat.
 
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haymarket said:
The comments in the last few days by Republican Southern politicians basically saying they do NOT want unionized plants in their states is far more preserving the GOP's political control of the state than it is anything else.
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Such comments are most likely meant to curry favor with the state's voters, who are overwhelmingly anti-union.
 
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wbcoleman said:
Corker is NOT the subject of the thread and, in fact, Obama is far more relevant to the actual subject, the UAW defeat in Chatanooga. Corker was at best a bit player, Obama's entire union strategy suffered a massive defeat.
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Oh, and this whole time I thought the topic of the thread had to do with the vote in TN which brings up the pesky fact that Corker lied and the Republicans used a fear/smear campaign to influence votes. My bad it was ostensibly about Obama having a hand in the vote:lol:
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Oh, and this whole time I thought the topic of the thread had to do with the vote in TN which brings up the pesky fact that Corker lied and the Republicans used a fear/smear campaign to influence votes. My bad it was ostensibly about Obama having a hand in the vote:lol:
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Corker was a bit player and a convenient excuse for the UAW's, and Obama's, defeat. Speaking of O whom, according to you, had nothing to do with anything, Reuters reported:

Obama weighs in on contentious union vote at Volkswagen plant | Reuters

"Obama said everyone was in favor of the UAW representing Volkswagen except for local politicians who "are more concerned about German shareholders than American workers," according to a Democratic aide who attended the meeting with Democratic lawmakers in the House of Representatives.
 
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wbcoleman said:
Corker was a bit player and a convenient excuse for the UAW's, and Obama's, defeat. Speaking of O whom, according to you, had nothing to do with anything, Reuters reported.
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Corker was no bit player. That is the point. He, along with other Republicans had a hand in trying to influence votes. Also, 'O' speaking out about the wrong that was done doesn't equate to doing the wrong.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Corker was no bit player. That is the point. He, along with other Republicans had a hand in trying to influence votes. Also, 'O' speaking out about the wrong that was done doesn't equate to doing the wrong.
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Corker was a bit player and a lame excuse, although I must concede that the workers probably weren't paying any attention to O either.
 
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wbcoleman said:
Corker was a bit player and a lame excuse, although I must concede that the workers probably weren't paying any attention to O either.
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Corker was no bit player. That is the point.
 
Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

wbcoleman said:
Corker was a bit player and a lame excuse, although I must concede that the workers probably weren't paying any attention to O either.
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your right the workers paid 0 attention to either person. the main reason that was given is that the workers saw what happened to the detroit big 3 under the UAW. they didnt' want
the same thing happening to their own plant. they like their jobs and VW pays them well.

the only reason that corker is even mentioned is that fact that liberals need something to blame other than the failure of the UAW to show it can build strong unions and strong companies.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Corker was no bit player. That is the point.
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Nobody's buying that. Constant repetition isn't making the sale. Corker is the lamest of lame excuses.
 
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haymarket said:
and......???????

This is the best you got????? :shock::doh

There are 14.5 MILLION union members in the USA and you come up with this incident involving ten people!??!?!?!?!?!? :roll:

Amazing!!!!! Simply mind blowing off the charts amazing!!!!!!
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you and rabbit are going off the wall at what 1 person said and there are 330m people in america.

the argument that rabbit made was that we don't need that type of corruption in the system. which is a fair statement. yet when confronted with the fact that
the corruption goes both ways and only both ways but you have people beating up and destroying private property because they won't unionize is over board.

that is just the tip of the iceburg. unions have always been well known for bullying their workers into submission. they are known for intimidation and other factors to try and push their way through.

that is why they want card check and no more secret ballot so they can show up at peoples homes and intimidate them and their families into joining a union.
union thuggery more so the UAW is appalling and just as corrupt or more corrupt than what corker said.
 
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ludin said:
you and rabbit are going off the wall at what 1 person said and there are 330m people in america.

the argument that rabbit made was that we don't need that type of corruption in the system. which is a fair statement. yet when confronted with the fact that
the corruption goes both ways and only both ways but you have people beating up and destroying private property because they won't unionize is over board.

that is just the tip of the iceburg. unions have always been well known for bullying their workers into submission. they are known for intimidation and other factors to try and push their way through.

that is why they want card check and no more secret ballot so they can show up at peoples homes and intimidate them and their families into joining a union.
union thuggery more so the UAW is appalling and just as corrupt or more corrupt than what corker said.
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None of this has to do with what happened in TN. The union did not cause violence. The politicians did try to influence the vote.
 
Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

rabbitcaebannog said:
None of this has to do with what happened in TN. The union did not cause violence. The politicians did try to influence the vote.
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no it shows corruption in the system thanks. you don't think the unions didn't try to influence the vote?
you would be wrong.
 
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Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

Union officials are convinced that Mr. Corker's statement about the SUV line influenced the outcome, a person briefed on the union's thinking said. The UAW was running a phone-bank campaign during the election, and in the days just before the vote heard from VW employees who once were in favor of a union swaying more neutral or to "no," this person said.

Another person who has been advising workers opposed to the UAW said about 1,000 of the 1,300 votes were cast last Wednesday before Mr. Corker went public with the statement that the plant would get an SUV even if the UAW loses the election.
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UAW Asks NLRB to Review Vote at VW - WSJ.com


So sad, too bad, Corker's comments did nothing to stop the UAW's failure, their track record did.
 
Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

ludin said:
no it shows corruption in the system thanks.
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:roll: The only corruption that happened during this situation was what these politicians displayed. The union did not do anything corrupt. What happens in PA has no bearings in TN no matter what slippery slope you are trying to make.
 
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