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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Name me an organization that pays the president out of their own salaries and then we can have a discussion. Good luck.
    Unions serve a purpose. They get paid through dues to serve this purpose but I'm sure you know this

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    up until recent ruling by the SCOTUS companies couldn't contribute to campaigns.

    you don't have to invest in a company that you don't like. you don't have the choice in a union you have to pay the dues. so you are not correct.
    Oh please, people equally don't have to work for a unionized company. You're argument holds no water.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If you think that's what they do, God love you and I hope you pay hundreds, if not thousands of dollars a year to a union.

    Perhaps, other than getting Obama elected and having many employees lose their employer paid or subsidized health insurance coverage, just what has the hundreds of millions of union dues pumped into the Democrat party and Democrat candidates actually gotten for workers? I have one answer - Obama sold the bond holders and other creditors of Chrysler down the river in order to give controlling interest of Chrysler to the union. But what has that gotten for other workers in the country who's union dues went to support overpaid Chrysler workers who make a **** product, get paid far too much to do it and lots of union workers can't afford to buy the cars they subsidized building?
    I don't disagree that just because they have a D in front of their name they will back labor rights. Many don't but some do.

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Your information is very dishonest. ... None of the officers or employees at the UAW headquarters in Detroit earn over $200,000 a year.
    You mean that ludin made something up?

    I'm shocked!!
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No hyperbole. Detroit was a source of wealth, jobs a place to stand in awe of industry. Look at it now.

    Did "Unions" do that to Detroit? No, they were just the best supporting actors in the destruction of a modern wonder of the 20th Century. The good folks in Tenn. Looked at many things, and you can bet for damned sure the slow death of the big three automakers played into their thinking.
    Lol... yeah, the best supporting actors couldn't have possibly been the companies who created energy guzzling vehicles that would eventually have to deal with rising gas prices. It was definitely the unions. Darn them for wanting to keep up with the economy.
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    it isn't dishonest at all. why is the head of a labor union getting paid more than the people he represents. more so his wages come at the expense of the people that he is suppose to be fighting for.
    Why no, there's nothing dishonest about you claiming that the union heads make $300,000+ salaries even though none of them do
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    But what has that gotten for other workers in the country who's union dues went to support overpaid Chrysler workers who make a **** product, get paid far too much to do it and lots of union workers can't afford to buy the cars they subsidized building?
    What?

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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    if the people in the union don't like the people that the money is going to then why should they have to support it with part of their union dues.
    They don't

    Your implication that they do is just one the many lies you have told, like how you claimed that the union heads of the UAW are making more than $300,000/yr
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    up until recent ruling by the SCOTUS companies couldn't contribute to campaigns.
    And that's another lie.

    Corporations have always been allowed to donate to campaigns
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    Re: Tennessee Volkswagen plant votes against union in UAW defeat

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Unions serve a purpose. They get paid through dues to serve this purpose but I'm sure you know this
    I see you didn't answer the question - not surprising since you couldn't.

    Unions do serve a purpose - unfortunately, much of what they spend the dues they collect has no relationship whatsoever to that purpose. It's why many people in unions want out and why many people looking for work don't apply at unionized employers.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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