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    Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks | Reuters
    Security firm FireEye Inc discovered the attacks against IE 10 this week, saying that hundreds or thousands of machines have been infected. It said the culprits broke into the website of U.S. Veterans of Foreign Wars and inserted a link that redirected visitors to a malicious web page that contained the infectious code in Adobe Systems Inc's Flash software.
    FireEye researcher Darien Kindlund said that the attackers were probably seeking information from the machines of former and current military personnel and that the campaign shared some infrastructure and techniques previously attributed to groups in mainland China.
    He said planting backdoors on the machines of VFW members and site visitors to collect military intelligence was a possible goal.
    Now understand I love PCs and not MACs, but evenso I never use IE of any version except to preview for coding issues when I'm updating or changing my website, this is why. Also I don't use Outlook for the same reason. They are just so targeted. I used to have a different OS shell to avoid even the explorer.exe needing to execute, but it didn't seem to work on W7 so I do have a full Explorer OS and shell. I also keep my internet and cpu icons in my taskbar so if they start popping activity that seems at all unusual for what I'm doing. I hit the disconnect from internet key asap, which I also hit anytime I step away from the screen more than a minute or two.
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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Who still uses Internet Explorer?

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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Who still uses Internet Explorer?
    True, I guess most of the Firefox hold-outs that I knew, now use Chrome. Apparently the VFW and 100s of 1000s of others though.
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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    It's still like 80% of computers out there. (although stats now heavily skewed by mobile devices, I think)
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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

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    Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks | Reuters


    Now understand I love PCs and not MACs, but evenso I never use IE of any version except to preview for coding issues when I'm updating or changing my website, this is why. Also I don't use Outlook for the same reason. They are just so targeted. I used to have a different OS shell to avoid even the explorer.exe needing to execute, but it didn't seem to work on W7 so I do have a full Explorer OS and shell. I also keep my internet and cpu icons in my taskbar so if they start popping activity that seems at all unusual for what I'm doing. I hit the disconnect from internet key asap, which I also hit anytime I step away from the screen more than a minute or two.
    Chances are the machines in question are not updated with the latest security patches and so on. Most infections require user interaction.
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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Chances are the machines in question are not updated with the latest security patches and so on. Most infections require user interaction.
    Did you read the article?

    I agree about the updating, it specifically says that IE11 isn't a problem but the flaw is in IE10. However, it isn't uncommon with IE to delay installation of the newer releases while MS gets it's bugs worked out. Seems more than once it was a new release of IE that was compromised early on but were fixed with later security updates. I see your point, and it is not only likely it is what the case is, but I don't agree that it always assures the best choice to update to new releases immediately.
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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Did you read the article?

    I agree about the updating, it specifically says that IE11 isn't a problem but the flaw is in IE10. However, it isn't uncommon with IE to delay installation of the newer releases while MS gets it's bugs worked out. Seems more than once it was a new release of IE that was compromised early on but were fixed with later security updates. I see your point, and it is not only likely it is what the case is, but I don't agree that it always assures the best choice to update to new releases immediately.
    Yes I did, and like it or not IE 10 and now 11 are considered the most secure browsers out there. They stop most malware. Chrome is right behind, but browsers like Safari, Firefox and Opera are miles behind. You could run IE or Chrome and no antivirus/malware and be relatively secure on a Windows 8 machine and some what secure on a Windows 7 machine.... but if you use one of the 3 others, then you are opening the door to attacks.

    Lets put it this way.. the last few years, the yearly hackathon of what OS is easiest to hack has been won by hacking OSX via Safari. Windows takes a hell of a lot more time to hack, and Linux even more.

    So that they found an unknown hole in IE and Flash does not mean that IE is not the most secure browser out there.

    Now personally I use Chrome for various reasons and I dont like IE 10, but I do respect the product as being secure as hell. But nothing is secure 100% and if the person behind the computer allows in malware then well. I have had 3 computers this week alone that I have had to clean from Sweet-pages and AwesomeHD malware.. and it aint easy with those short cut infection malware... there always seem some that the scanners miss and it is always those short cuts that customers seem to find bleh.
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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Who still uses Internet Explorer?
    Business, enterprise, Mom & Pop, and the most important feature of IE:

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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Business, enterprise, Mom & Pop, and the most important feature of IE:

    Even my school board uses Chrome or Firefox now and that is saying something.

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    Re: Hackers used previously unknown Internet Explorer flaw in new attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yes I did, and like it or not IE 10 and now 11 are considered the most secure browsers out there. They stop most malware. Chrome is right behind, but browsers like Safari, Firefox and Opera are miles behind. You could run IE or Chrome and no antivirus/malware and be relatively secure on a Windows 8 machine and some what secure on a Windows 7 machine.... but if you use one of the 3 others, then you are opening the door to attacks.

    Lets put it this way.. the last few years, the yearly hackathon of what OS is easiest to hack has been won by hacking OSX via Safari. Windows takes a hell of a lot more time to hack, and Linux even more.

    So that they found an unknown hole in IE and Flash does not mean that IE is not the most secure browser out there.

    Now personally I use Chrome for various reasons and I dont like IE 10, but I do respect the product as being secure as hell. But nothing is secure 100% and if the person behind the computer allows in malware then well. I have had 3 computers this week alone that I have had to clean from Sweet-pages and AwesomeHD malware.. and it aint easy with those short cut infection malware... there always seem some that the scanners miss and it is always those short cuts that customers seem to find bleh.
    I've been running Firefox since it's inception without an antivirus, just a good quality user controlled firewall and have never gotten a worm, a trojan, or a virus. So you can claim it, but though everyone besides me (that I know) has anti-virus meaning it's not an apples to apples comparison, but I've not known anyone go from Firefox to Chrome or Firefox to IE. Only the other way around. That's just my experience. I have no national or international data to back it up.
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