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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Gender is a social construct and there have been more than two genders in many cultures in the world. How gender is defined is a moving target as well. Sex is a male or female. Gender is about your social expression of how you express that sex. Masculine and Feminine are defined by the culture you are in as well as having them linked to physical sex in many cases. But for some cultures a third way of being that crosses lines or blends more of the two to create something new. Ancient Rome, Native American and Indian Hindu cultures all have a third gender or more. This is not new at all.
    I accept anyone's self-identification (within reason) but I've never been comfortable with the notion that gender is a social construct. Gender as colloquially used and understood overwhelmingly refers to sex, which is emphatically not a social construct. When people talk about a 'third gender' what they are invariably talking about how people of a particular sex express themselves sexually, personally, and in wider society. This can manifest itself in innumerable ways including the obvious example of the trans-community. But other genders? I've always thought that was a bridge too far and that it muddles the biological waters for political purposes.

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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I accept anyone's self-identification (within reason) but I've never been comfortable with the notion that gender is a social construct. Gender as colloquially used and understood overwhelmingly refers to sex, which is emphatically not a social construct. When people talk about a 'third gender' what they are invariably talking about how people of a particular sex express themselves sexually, personally, and in wider society. This can manifest itself in innumerable ways including the obvious example of the trans-community. But other genders? I've always thought that was a bridge too far and that it muddles the biological waters for political purposes.
    Muddles the waters? Why? Do you think people are too dumb to figure out what transgender means?
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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    This is such a non issue for me as there's not one person on my facebook friends list who i don't already know what gender they identify themselves by. I don't need facebook to tell me.

    Then again, I've never been one to have to have hundreds of facebook friends i barely speak to in real life or to add randoms i have not spoken to in 10 years since school etc.

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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I accept anyone's self-identification (within reason) but I've never been comfortable with the notion that gender is a social construct. Gender as colloquially used and understood overwhelmingly refers to sex, which is emphatically not a social construct. When people talk about a 'third gender' what they are invariably talking about how people of a particular sex express themselves sexually, personally, and in wider society. This can manifest itself in innumerable ways including the obvious example of the trans-community. But other genders? I've always thought that was a bridge too far and that it muddles the biological waters for political purposes.
    It honestly doesn't matter what you believe, it is what is true historically. Gender is an invention of a society and it is differently defined in different cultures and changes within a culture over time. That is not a debatable point. The idea of "third gender" is a way of describing encounters with social constructs that are different from the western culture approach.

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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    I didn't see the terms I use to describe these disgusting people on the list, oh well.

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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    It honestly doesn't matter what you believe, it is what is true historically. Gender is an invention of a society and it is differently defined in different cultures and changes within a culture over time. That is not a debatable point. The idea of "third gender" is a way of describing encounters with social constructs that are different from the western culture approach.
    I don't think that is true.

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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I didn't see the terms I use to describe these disgusting people on the list, oh well.
    Charming. What makes them disgusting?

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    Re: Male, female or 'custom'? Facebook announces 50 ways to define gender

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I don't even know what most of those terms mean
    Just look here then buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    58 choices.....

    So you just got off a long flight and REALLY need to use the restroom when appears before you a long hallway with 58 different signs....none of which seem to be "Men" or "Women".....
    We could easily solve this by having gender neutral bathrooms.
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    Re: Male, female or 'custom'? Facebook announces 50 ways to define gender

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    already pondering when the left wing will begin targeting/ostracizing anyone who defines gender as "man and woman ONLY." What name will they come up with....wait.........GENDERPHOBES!!! I love it. You all have my permission to use it when the time comes. your welcome
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    Look at your birth certificate. Does it say M or F? 2 genders, 2 options. This is nothing but hyper-wordy pandering. It's Facebook, Facebook is private and hardly some kind of serious thing, but it's just stupid to have 50+ "gender" choices.

    Neither of you have any idea what you are talking about, do you?
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    Re: Facebook offers more ways to express gender beyond 'male' and 'female'

    "And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."

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