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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Texashonor View Post
    the poll provided clearly says that the people in support of gay marriage are Liberals young people as well as nonreligious it says it right in your survey. Also people argue if America was a Christian founded Country... it is obvious that it was a founded as a Christian nation but non the less people will argue it so even if you deny that it is undeniable that is was Religiously founded.

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    Tell me a "NONreligious" group that believes in a creator?

    if there is none which there cant be for obvious reasons then you apply simple logic and say that the founding father were religious and based off of that and knowing even with your numbers that religious people are not Pro homosexual marriage you can also know that our founding fathers would have been on that same boat.
    Learn you history bud.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Learn you history bud.

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    Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were deists.

    Alright Kiddo, you have to have a bit of logic...

    can you be a "deist" without being religious? just because he was a deist doesn't mean he wasn't religious.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Texashonor View Post
    It doesnt matter what "you see" or what you want to see you have to stick to the facts. It is a fact that the majority of people don't support gay marriage and that isn't an estimation, it is a fact.
    Actually, the FACT is that the majority of people support SSM. All polls show this. You have been corrected. Please update your files.
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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Texashonor View Post
    Alright Kiddo, you have to have a bit of logic...

    can you be a "deist" without being religious? just because he was a deist doesn't mean he wasn't religious.
    Uh huh?

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    Actually, the FACT is that the majority of people support SSM. All polls show this. You have been corrected. Please update your files.
    Quinnipiac University Poll. April 25-29, 2013. N=1,471 registered voters nationwide. Margin of error 2.6.


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    "In general, do you support or oppose same-sex marriage?"


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    Support Oppose Unsure
    % % %


    4/25-29/13
    45 47 8


    3/26 - 4/1/13
    50 41 9


    2/27 - 3/4/13
    47 43 10


    11/28 - 12/3/12
    48 46 7


    7/8-13/08
    36 55 9


    From Civil Rights

    says that people don't support gay marriage so you should check your statement to make sure they are true before you lose your credibility.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Texashonor View Post
    It doesnt matter what "you see" or what you want to see you have to stick to the facts. It is a fact that the majority of people don't support gay marriage and that isn't an estimation, it is a fact.
    An interesting thing about facts is that they can easily be verified or disputed. In this case the evidence is not on your side.

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    55% support same sex marriage.

    National (US) Poll - October 4, 2013 - U.S. Catholics Back Pope On Ch | Quinnipiac University Connecticut
    56% support same sex marriage.

    In U.S., 52% Back Law to Legalize Gay Marriage in 50 States
    52% support same sex marriage.

    New Poll: Marriage Equality Support at Record High in Wake of SCOTUS Ruling :: EDGE Boston
    55% support same sex marriage.

    Gay Rights Poll: ABC News, Washington Post Survey Finds Support For Same-Sex Marriage, Ending Boy Scout Ban
    51% support same sex marriage.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

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    you are absolutely right and can you be a deist and also be religious?

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Texashonor View Post
    Quinnipiac University Poll. April 25-29, 2013. N=1,471 registered voters nationwide. Margin of error 2.6.


    .

    "In general, do you support or oppose same-sex marriage?"


    .
    Support Oppose Unsure
    % % %


    4/25-29/13
    45 47 8


    3/26 - 4/1/13
    50 41 9


    2/27 - 3/4/13
    47 43 10


    11/28 - 12/3/12
    48 46 7


    7/8-13/08
    36 55 9


    From Civil Rights

    says that people don't support gay marriage so you should check your statement to make sure they are true before you lose your credibility.
    Out of dozens of different poll numbers, the best you could do is grab one set from a specific span of days that had a spread that was well within the margin of error?

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Texashonor View Post
    you are absolutely right and can you be a deist and also be religious?
    Fine with me. If you are comfortable calling someone who rejected all the supernatural elements and miracles of the Bible, a "religious" person then I have no problem with it.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Texashonor View Post
    Quinnipiac University Poll. April 25-29, 2013. N=1,471 registered voters nationwide. Margin of error 2.6.


    .

    "In general, do you support or oppose same-sex marriage?"


    .
    Support Oppose Unsure
    % % %


    4/25-29/13
    45 47 8


    3/26 - 4/1/13
    50 41 9


    2/27 - 3/4/13
    47 43 10


    11/28 - 12/3/12
    48 46 7


    7/8-13/08
    36 55 9


    From Civil Rights

    says that people don't support gay marriage so you should check your statement to make sure they are true before you lose your credibility.
    Scores of polls and you find ONE that has ONE span of a few days where the numbers are within the span of percentage of error. Your statement was false. I think you need to check YOUR credibility on this issue.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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