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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    First off **** the Fourteenth Amendment - It could justify free apple pie and ribs everyday all day to everyone in the US if a judge so ordered...

    Secondly a ballot initiative needs to be CHALLENGED, and until a ruling has been made that law is currant law. The problem is that those special interest groups who challenge these ballot initiatives generally have swagger and are high powered attorneys which usually come from the anarchistic ACLU and they know what judge to put the case or issue in front of - a judge what will rule in their favor.

    The judicial system is just as corrupt as politics - if not more.

    The Fourteenth Amendment needs to be abolished considering it justifies just about anything and everything.
    No, it could not justify free anything unless there was already a law providing those to some people.

    And the challenges are heard by judges, that is how our system works. If you have some better way that ensures people cannot vote into place the laws of others and those laws stand, please enlighten us. So far, you haven't really provided any other suggests except maybe adding more of those judges that you consider corrupt.

    Go ahead and see how much support you can get for abolishing/repealing the 14th.
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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I will ask again: have you read the ruling and if so what part did you feel was wrong?
    What was wrong??

    MMM since when does one bitch dictate outcome, not to mention the EVIL 14th Amendment.

    This is not some sort of ****ing theocracy or monarchy but the courts have circumvented those ideas and created their own.

    All judges belong in prison on charges of treason and conspiracy to commit treason.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Tyranny is letting 57% of voters take away rights from someone. Tyranny is letting 57% of voters violate the constitution.
    and democracy....... is tyranny of the majority

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What was wrong??

    MMM since when does one bitch dictate outcome, not to mention the EVIL 14th Amendment.

    This is not some sort of ****ing theocracy or monarchy but the courts have circumvented those ideas and created their own.

    All judges belong in prison on charges of treason and conspiracy to commit treason.
    Whoah.

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, it could not justify free anything unless there was already a law providing those to some people.

    And the challenges are heard by judges, that is how our system works. If you have some better way that ensures people cannot vote into place the laws of others and those laws stand, please enlighten us. So far, you haven't really provided any other suggests except maybe adding more of those judges that you consider corrupt.

    Go ahead and see how much support you can get for abolishing/repealing the 14th.
    There have already been state laws in place in which every gay progressive and their other go screaming 14th Amendment violation...

    Let me ask you this - what DOESN'T the 14th Amendment forbid and what does it allow?

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Stupid is as stupid does, just because.

    BTW, not allowing people to contract unnatural marriages in no way constitutes racial voting discrimination, but I guess if you had any sense you would already know that.
    It is, of course, nothing akin to racial voting discrimination. It is, however, government force against the free rights of the individual. In this case, the right to contract.
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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    actually it is and there are already lawsuits being generated out there that are waiting to see how this thing blows up.

    polygamists are lining up along with other non-traditional marriage arrangements to press the same argument and there is nothing you can do to argue against it.
    so it isn't a slippery slope as much as it is waiting in the wing sort of speak.
    once you redefine marriage into a generic definition of just people that love each other then everything else doesn't matter.

    we are not talking race, we are not talking gender.
    we are talking about peoples lifestyle choices. lifestyle choices are not a protected class like race and gender.

    you can't say that gay people and heterosexuals can marry but polygamist or any other alternate lifestyle can't. if you do then you are being a bigot and whatever other name you call people. your own view then fails to it's own hypocrisy.

    i am sure there are good polygamist marriages out there so how can you say that 2 or 3 adults that love each other shouldn't be allowed to marry and co-habitate as married?
    you are discriminating against their rights. (argument sound familiar it should.)

    if you don't think that this won't be pressed in court for the same reasons think again. then we will see where you really stand on the matter.
    the fact that you are speaking out against it pretty much sums it up.
    their going to be judged on their own no one is saying marriage should be based on love alone except for people who don't like gay marriage its a straw man

    I never chose to be hetero sexual its not a life style choice you don't choose if your attracted t the same gender or not either

    marriage to some one of another race is also a choice not letting some one marry because they choose to marry out of race is still a violation of equal protection under the law even if every one of any race can marry someone of the same race

    same thing with gay marriage 1 gender couples are still not being treated as equals under the law just because you will let them marry who they don't want to without allowing yourself to marry some one you don't want to

    based on gender

    we can allow same gender couples to marry because their marriage is just like hetero sexual marriage that we allow

    polygamy will have to make it own case and if the case against it is as empty of meaning as the opposition against gay marriage then it should be aloud

    this whole

    well its may not be bad that these guys can marry but if you let them some kind of marriage that is bad must happen thing makes no sense

    it is the slippery slope fallacy and your accusations of hypocrisy are based on a straw man
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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The 14th Amendment is **** and opens the doors to basically government endorsed anarchy. The 14th Amendment has no limitations as all Amendments do.
    Yes, it has limitations. No, it's not just based on the whims of a judge. But if you aren't actually willing to discuss court decisions and how the structure of the 14th amendment actually works in practice, there's really nothing left to say to you. Are you willing to do that?
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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yet these people will be making the same case. i forget the name of the organization. i agree it is disgusting, and i find no basis but that is not going to stop them from arguing it.

    actually love is stupid to base a law on yet that is one of the number 1 arguments i hear. how can you tell two people that love each other they can't marry. they are wanting to define marriage as anyone that loves another person.
    you don't seem to hear very clearly or read very clearly

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    Re: Federal Judge Rules Va. Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    There have already been state laws in place in which every gay progressive and their other go screaming 14th Amendment violation...

    Let me ask you this - what DOESN'T the 14th Amendment forbid and what does it allow?
    Would you like an actual short-version of how equal protection actually works in practice?

    edit: because your rant about all judges being treasonous seems to indicate you don't actually want to talk about this rationally.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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