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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Fewer people in the work force isn't going to boost the economy. We're not talking about people working less; we're talking about people not working, at all.
    Actually, we are. That's part of it. And people only needed to work for insurance. Had other income, private income, who need insurance.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Just when you thought he wasn't a big enough idiot, Keith Ellison opened his trap on Fox again....
    To a certain degree he does have a point. If we could get all the women out of the jobs they shouldn't have, there would likely be a much lower unemployment rate (as men would fill those jobs) and the women could get back to their proper place as housewives and homemakers.

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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, we are. That's part of it. And people only needed to work for insurance. Had other income, private income, who need insurance.
    Those people are a small minority.
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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Those people are a small minority.
    You think.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Of course I can because I see the huge benefit that a stay-at-home parent makes over cheap childcare, or a 60-65yo who is laid off and has the money to survive fine and begin retirement except for that health insurance issue. Sorry, I guess YOU are limited in your ability to see the realities of life, I am not.
    Reality?

    Cheap child care is an oxymoron.

    Except for that health care insurance issue?

    Who are you to decide whether or not someone will be fine if laid off from their job near retirement age, God or Keith Ellison?
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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Reality?

    Cheap child care is an oxymoron.

    Except for that health care insurance issue?

    Who are you to decide whether or not someone will be fine if laid off from their job near retirement age, God or Keith Ellison?
    Who are you to be so ignorant as to think anyone is talking about forced unemployment? There is no such thing going to happen. So the question is who are you to say they have to work just so they can have insurance when all their other bills and even the insurance premiums are affordable with whatever non-working income they have, perhaps stocks or an annuity, or a legal payout or any other non-government funded resource for paying their bills.
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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    For the same reason that I have to help pay for the roads you use to get to work, the electric grid you use to power your home, the failures of banksters and wallstreet, schools for your family.... because that's why communities group together in neighborhoods, cities, states, and countries. Because the resources provided by many for the good of all costs everyone less than trying to accomplish everything individually. Really, do you need this explained to you?
    No, it was obviously rhetorical. I shouldnt have to pay for you to use those things, because I never consented to those services. Nor did I ever consent to paying for other peoples healthcare. Or this idea of 'needs of the many at the expense of the few'

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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Who do you think does? You already were.
    And why?

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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No, it was obviously rhetorical. I shouldnt have to pay for you to use those things, because I never consented to those services. Nor did I ever consent to paying for other peoples healthcare. Or this idea of 'needs of the many at the expense of the few'
    You participated in the voting of your representatives. That means you are party to what happened. And frankly, your view is a bit skewed. You pay for fire departments and roads and police and other things that others don't but use. You and I do for two reasons: 1) in benefits us personally when the circumstance changes and we need them, and 2) it benefits the community as a whole, and when our neighbor is protected, it makes things better for all of us.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Rep. Keith Ellison on ObamaCare-Job Losses: More Time for Americans to Cook Dinne

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    And why?
    One reason is from the law that requires ERs treat the uninsured and the government subsidises hospitals to do that.

    The other is that the same care ends up costing your insurance company more to help pay for that. The extra cost to your insurance turns into higher premiums for you.


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