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    Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures - The Washington Post

    The headline is no surprise. The House Armed Services Committee issued a report today ...

    Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee largely exonerated the U.S. military from responsibility for failures associated with the September 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya, instead blaming the White House and the State Department for ignoring heightened threats in the area.

    The committee majority’s conclusions, in a report released Tuesday, do not differ significantly from those reached by other congressional panels that have touched on the military’s role in the Benghazi incident.
    Well, except in one way.

    While the findings are consistent, the House panel was able to “go much further down the road of assessing hypotheticals” regarding the Defense Department’s role, a staffer said. The report found that there had been no order given to a six-man military group based in Tripoli to “stand down” rather than rush to Benghazi, but rather that the majority of the group was ordered to stay in the Libyan capital to combat possible threats there.
    There was no stand down order. Repeat: There was no stand down order. Maybe that ludicrous talking point can finally be put to rest.
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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures - The Washington Post

    The headline is no surprise. The House Armed Services Committee issued a report today ...



    Well, except in one way.



    There was no stand down order. Repeat: There was no stand down order. Maybe that ludicrous talking point can finally be put to rest.
    I have no idea what happened that night. It does read to me that the majority were told to "stay put", so we can all agree now that they were ordered to, not go help, according to the staffer in your story.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

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    Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures - The Washington Post

    The headline is no surprise. The House Armed Services Committee issued a report today ...



    Well, except in one way.



    There was no stand down order. Repeat: There was no stand down order. Maybe that ludicrous talking point can finally be put to rest.
    So what aggressive action did Obama take?

    Oh yeah that's right he didn't take any despite the fact he damn well knew what was going on.

    Obama is a passive pussy when it comes to Geo-politics and he only gets hard or belligerent when he tells US citizens he looks forward to circumventing the Constitution.

    Funny how he's "Mr. Hard Ass" when he talks down to the American people, yet turns into a pussy when a potential Geo-Political confrontation erupts.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    I have no idea what happened that night. It does read to me that the majority were told to "stay put", so we can all agree now that they were ordered to, not go help, according to the staffer in your story.
    The reason is why they were ordered to not rush to Benghazi. The Pentagon was concerned that there would be more attacks on U.S. assets in Libya. Rushing a security team to Benghazi would leave assets in Tripoli more vulnerable. That does not sound, to me, like sound strategy.
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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

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    The reason is why they were ordered to not rush to Benghazi. The Pentagon was concerned that there would be more attacks on U.S. assets in Libya. Rushing a security team to Benghazi would leave assets in Tripoli more vulnerable. That does not sound, to me, like sound strategy.
    Yeah and you act like we only had a few dozen guys on the ground or air support 10 hours away...

    This is a good reason to arm our embassies with Napalm, Grenades and an arsenal of automatic weapons.

    If they threw a few grenades and fired some Napalm and a few warning shots this would have never happened.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures - The Washington Post

    The headline is no surprise. The House Armed Services Committee issued a report today ...



    Well, except in one way.



    There was no stand down order. Repeat: There was no stand down order. Maybe that ludicrous talking point can finally be put to rest.
    Why stretch this into some sort of redemption or deflection? Facts are just that... facts. This report is just one of many that show exactly how the failures of the civilian side of the administration lead to the deaths.

    More will come out as time goes by.

    This shouldn't be political, although anything done in DC turns political.

    What we should be focusing on, as I've said on this forum before, is where the breakdown or bad choices occurred and create fixes so that something similar doesn't happen again.

    If the White House or the State Department screwed up, then we should know that and how we can make sure people in the field have the power to do what they need, including save their lives.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The reason is why they were ordered to not rush to Benghazi. The Pentagon was concerned that there would be more attacks on U.S. assets in Libya. Rushing a security team to Benghazi would leave assets in Tripoli more vulnerable. That does not sound, to me, like sound strategy.
    How does what happened at Benghazi not piss you off? If it happened during a Republican administration exactly as it did, would you be so equally interested in accepting excuses? I can say that I would be just as pissed about Benghazi if it happened under a Republican adminstration.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The reason is why they were ordered to not rush to Benghazi. The Pentagon was concerned that there would be more attacks on U.S. assets in Libya. Rushing a security team to Benghazi would leave assets in Tripoli more vulnerable. That does not sound, to me, like sound strategy.

    Never said why I thought they did or did not do anything. Just pointing out the article basically says they were ordered to stay put.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Why stretch this into some sort of redemption or deflection? Facts are just that... facts. This report is just one of many that show exactly how the failures of the civilian side of the administration lead to the deaths.

    More will come out as time goes by.

    This shouldn't be political, although anything done in DC turns political.

    What we should be focusing on, as I've said on this forum before, is where the breakdown or bad choices occurred and create fixes so that something similar doesn't happen again.

    If the White House or the State Department screwed up, then we should know that and how we can make sure people in the field have the power to do what they need, including save their lives.
    Quite obviously, security at the Benghazi compound was insufficient. The fact that the attack was successful is indicative of that. And yes, that's on State and, to an extent, the White House.

    However, while this shouldn't be political, it is. One repeated cudgel used by the GOP has been that the White House issued a "stand down" order to forces that might have been able to assist, which leads to the conclusion that Obama "let them die." As we now see, this is not correct.

    While clearly the priority should be to prevent future attacks, knowing how they screwed up and knowing how they didn't are both vital.
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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Why stretch this into some sort of redemption or deflection? Facts are just that... facts. This report is just one of many that show exactly how the failures of the civilian side of the administration lead to the deaths.

    More will come out as time goes by.

    This shouldn't be political, although anything done in DC turns political.

    What we should be focusing on, as I've said on this forum before, is where the breakdown or bad choices occurred and create fixes so that something similar doesn't happen again.

    If the White House or the State Department screwed up, then we should know that and how we can make sure people in the field have the power to do what they need, including save their lives.
    The only thing that makes this political is the fact those in charge of giving orders did NOTHING but pretty much say "stand down."

    If they were given permission to fight for their lives this wouldn't even be a story ... Obama was too inept to consider such a concept because hes one of those OWS guys where uprisings just lead to graffiti written in human ****....

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