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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    How does what happened at Benghazi not piss you off?
    Who says it doesn't? I'm not particularly keen on American diplomats being killed by terrorists. You know what else pissed me off? Republicans immediately politicizing the attack and using it as a cudgel based on information we know is false.

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    If it happened during a Republican administration exactly as it did, would you be so equally interested in accepting excuses?
    This isn't "accepting excuses," this is determining facts.

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    I can say that I would be just as pissed about Benghazi if it happened under a Republican adminstration.
    Good for you.

    Nine Americans were killed when terrorists stormed a U.S. diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on May 12, 2003. Were you pissed then?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_compound_bombings
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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Why stretch this into some sort of redemption or deflection? Facts are just that... facts. This report is just one of many that show exactly how the failures of the civilian side of the administration lead to the deaths.

    More will come out as time goes by.

    This shouldn't be political, although anything done in DC turns political.

    What we should be focusing on, as I've said on this forum before, is where the breakdown or bad choices occurred and create fixes so that something similar doesn't happen again.

    If the White House or the State Department screwed up, then we should know that and how we can make sure people in the field have the power to do what they need, including save their lives.
    It's disappointing that some would rather just sweep this whole thing under the rug rather than acknowledge anything that might cast the current administration in a less than perfect light.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's disappointing that some would rather just sweep this whole thing under the rug rather than acknowledge anything that might cast the current administration in a less than perfect light.
    Which would be disappointing if that's what I was actually doing. Apparently debunking oft-repeated lies = "Sweeping things under the rug."
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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Which would be disappointing if that's what I was actually doing. Apparently debunking oft-repeated lies = "Sweeping things under the rug."
    Obviously some thing went along. Whatever. Let me know when what happened is a greater concern for you than bashing Republicans. I won't hold my breath.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    So what aggressive action did Obama take?

    Oh yeah that's right he didn't take any despite the fact he damn well knew what was going on.

    Obama is a passive pussy when it comes to Geo-politics and he only gets hard or belligerent when he tells US citizens he looks forward to circumventing the Constitution.

    Funny how he's "Mr. Hard Ass" when he talks down to the American people, yet turns into a pussy when a potential Geo-Political confrontation erupts.
    I'm sure Osama bin Laden and Muhmar Ghaddafi both agree from their graves. Obama just doesn't have what it takes to order military strikes into foreign countries.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures - The Washington Post

    The headline is no surprise. The House Armed Services Committee issued a report today ...



    Well, except in one way.



    There was no stand down order. Repeat: There was no stand down order. Maybe that ludicrous talking point can finally be put to rest.
    Are you friggin kidding?!?

    They were ordered to stay put, and not help, and that's your proof of no stand down order?

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Obviously some thing went along. Whatever. Let me know when what happened is a greater concern for you than bashing Republicans. I won't hold my breath.
    So apparently one is not allowed to point out that a significant talking point from the people who politicized this whole thing in the first place is a lie -- what, I'm not allowed to do that unless I'm sufficiently angry about the attack that happened a year and half ago?
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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Are you friggin kidding?!?

    They were ordered to stay put, and not help, and that's your proof of no stand down order?
    That wasn't a "don't go help Benghazi" order, it was a "protect assets in Tripoli" order. Read the damn article.
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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So apparently one is not allowed to point out that a significant talking point from the people who politicized this whole thing in the first place is a lie -- what, I'm not allowed to do that unless I'm sufficiently angry about the attack that happened a year and half ago?
    You're "allowed" to think/post/feel about this however you want. I just understand what's most important to you regarding this.

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    Re: Republicans investigating Benghazi blame White House, State Dept. for failures

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You're "allowed" to think/post/feel about this however you want. I just understand what's most important to you regarding this.
    You understand whatever you want.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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