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Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

It's a crying shame how you treat your fellow veteran.

I don't have to think everyone who served is a wonderful guy just because they served do I....Hell, I didn't even think that when I was in....:lol:
 
It just passed got an update from Politico.
When Bohner couldn't even get conservative members in the GOP caucus to agree on what they want to cut and what they want to stay or if they should yet again for the 1 millionth time try to repeal the ACA he had no other choice but to put this on the schedule to vote.
 
I think you're being hyperbolic. In addition money market funds have a lower return than the inflation rate. So do CDs.

You literally lose [Return Rate] - [Inflation Rate] = % loss on all money market funds. Unless it's 1939, money markets are a HORRIBLE idea.

But you don't take on that 30 percent correction, then you try to get back in once "corrected".

Timing the market is bad, but this market is so overvalued, it's ridiculous. Companies are sitting on piles of cash for a reason. They know it's all bogus.
 
It just passed got an update from Politico.
When Bohner couldn't even get conservative members in the GOP caucus to agree on what they want to cut and what they want to stay or if they should yet again for the 1 millionth time try to repeal the ACA he had no other choice but to put this on the schedule to vote.

What? Uh....no.
 
What? Uh....no.

Yes....
The moderate elements of the GOP and the more conservative elements could come to agree with eachother.
"This time, however, Boehner could not get his caucus to agree on what to ask for. Even a relatively modest proposal to repeal a slight cut in military pension cost-of-living increases floated among members earlier this week could not generate enough support among more conservative members" House approves ‘clean’ debt-ceiling increase | Al Jazeera America
 
It just passed got an update from Politico.
When Bohner couldn't even get conservative members in the GOP caucus to agree on what they want to cut and what they want to stay or if they should yet again for the 1 millionth time try to repeal the ACA he had no other choice but to put this on the schedule to vote.


Just goes to show how times have changed and how Democrats haven't seen a dollar that they didn't want to spend to buy votes.

The Quote of the Decade:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, 'the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

Debt to GDP exceeds 100% so Democrats please let me know the last time that occurred. That devil Reagan had a 50% Debt to GDP ratio and he is demonized
 
Just goes to show how times have changed and how Democrats haven't seen a dollar that they didn't want to spend to buy votes.
Or that all these things dont have to be attached to a bill raising the debt ceiling since essentially that would make those things not necessary if they were attached to the bill because they have little to nothing when it comes to raising a debt ceiling. Afterall if the conservatives want these things they should bring them to the floor in a seperate bill not attach them to the debt ceiling bill.

The Quote of the Decade:
Wow a politician flip flopping and doing things for cheap political gain! Say it aint so! I bet no one in the GOP does this!
But if thats your "quote of the decade" then man....


Debt to GDP exceeds 100% so Democrats please let me know the last time that occurred. That devil Reagan had a 50% Debt to GDP ratio and he is demonized
Well saying you know the guy that started this big spending habit was a little guy named Ronald Reagan.. But its kinda hard to lower your debt when you cant bring in money (raise taxes)
 
Or that all these things dont have to be attached to a bill raising the debt ceiling since essentially that would make those things not necessary if they were attached to the bill because they have little to nothing when it comes to raising a debt ceiling. Afterall if the conservatives want these things they should bring them to the floor in a seperate bill not attach them to the debt ceiling bill.


Wow a politician flip flopping and doing things for cheap political gain! Say it aint so! I bet no one in the GOP does this!
But if thats your "quote of the decade" then man....



Well saying you know the guy that started this big spending habit was a little guy named Ronald Reagan.. But its kinda hard to lower your debt when you cant bring in money (raise taxes)

Got it, if a Democrat spends it is ok and a debt to GDP Percent over 100% doesn't matter since it is a Democrat doing the spending.

Then there is the Reagan argument, since Reagan did it, therefore it is ok for Obama to do it even though the Reagan ratio was 50% of GDP. Is 50% more or less than the over 100% now?

Raising Taxes is always the first alternative for a liberal even though raising taxes won't even come close to making a difference but that doesn't matter because rhetoric trumps substance. The Obama tax proposal if fully implemented and generated the promised results would reduce the deficit by 80 billion dollars. When was the last Obama projection that was correct and how will 80 billion dollars a year make a difference to the incredible debt Obama has generated?
 
Please explain...
The graph fraudulently portrays the two trends as similar, despite the fact that the 28-29 increase was a gain of nearly 100 percent whereas the recent gain was less than a third. The two are nowhere near proportional.
 
It's a crying shame how you treat your fellow veteran.

Its a shame how he has been treating his fellow Veterans as well as those who he claims to identify with......while allowing Obama to purge the military of what the Democrats and Left Knows can deal with their police state without breaking a swet, huh?
 
Its a shame how he has been treating his fellow Veterans as well as those who he claims to identify with......while allowing Obama to purge the military of what the Democrats and Left Knows can deal with their police state without breaking a swet, huh?
LOL what?
 
I feel like we are having the same debate every three months. Anyway, this is just more evidence govt is on autopilot and no one wants to do anything that would affect the election. Cowards and negligence in both parties. We'll be right back here after the election doing the very same thing: procrastinating. And Ill bet you right now that 90% of the people in office will be right back in the same place doing the same things for 2 more years.
 
Got it, if a Democrat spends it is ok and a debt to GDP Percent over 100% doesn't matter since it is a Democrat doing the spending.
Wait a tic i thought we have separation of powers......

Then there is the Reagan argument, since Reagan did it, therefore it is ok for Obama to do it even though the Reagan ratio was 50% of GDP. Is 50% more or less than the over 100% now?
He was the one that started to make it skyrocket, was he not?
Just kinda interesting that once a democrat gets in the White House all the sudden we are all "worried about the debt"

Raising Taxes is always the first alternative for a liberal even though raising taxes won't even come close to making a difference but that doesn't matter because rhetoric trumps substance. The Obama tax proposal if fully implemented and generated the promised results would reduce the deficit by 80 billion dollars. When was the last Obama projection that was correct and how will 80 billion dollars a year make a difference to the incredible debt Obama has generated?
It brought in 1.4 trillion alone in 2007...
 
Is there an actual explanation for this apparent surrender? I'm surprised, what changed?

Honest question seeking honest answer/

Are you kidding me"?

What changed is that this is an election year.

The GOP knows it can **** up the country in off years, but when they need votes, they have to act somewhat rationally.

Of course, their inability to do anything with immigration belies this stance... but cest la vie.
 
Boehner is a yellow-belly.
 
Wait a tic i thought we have separation of powers......


He was the one that started to make it skyrocket, was he not?
Just kinda interesting that once a democrat gets in the White House all the sudden we are all "worried about the debt"


It brought in 1.4 trillion alone in 2007...

Depends on your definition of a skyrocket, adding 17 million jobs and doubling GDP certainly would qualify as a good skyrocket wouldn't you say?

Was Obama in office in 2007? Thought the Bush tax cuts were in effect that year?
 
Did you notice that they actually altered the Y-axis to get it to fit that way?

LOL!!

They are TWO DIFFERENT SCALES on the Y axis.

Thats the funniest use of a graph I've ever seen. Its even funnier that people could look at it and actually believe it says something about the current market.
 
Depends on your definition of a skyrocket, adding 17 million jobs and doubling GDP certainly would qualify as a good skyrocket wouldn't you say?
Wait i thought we were talking about the debt/deficit.
Moving the goalposts i see.


Was Obama in office in 2007? Thought the Bush tax cuts were in effect that year?
They were... And pretty much still are for the vast vast majority of population.
 
Wait i thought we were talking about the debt/deficit.
Moving the goalposts i see.



They were... And pretty much still are for the vast vast majority of population.

We are, that deficit of 1.7 trillion dollars generated those numbers which equated to 50 percent of GDP? You don't seem to understand ROI either nor the peace dividend created. Debt generating positive results like that is management. Obama's isn't
 
I'm pretty sure he's not up for re-election this year.

But irregardless, the Republicans can only **** this election up (like theyve done the last few). Not doing destructive and pointless fighting over stupiid stuff like the debt ceiling is a step in the positive direction.

I am pretty sure his supporters aren't going to like the outcome of this Fall's election.
 
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