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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We are, that deficit of 1.7 trillion dollars generated those numbers which equated to 50 percent of GDP? You don't seem to understand ROI either nor the peace dividend created. Debt generating positive results like that is management. Obama's isn't

    Then you are obviousley a huge fan of this right!? Obama says deficit is falling at the fastest rate in 60 years | PolitiFact

    But then again you do realize that raising the debt ceiling doesnt mean that we are gonna add more to the debt or deficit it simply means that it allows the Treasury Department to pay for what Congress has already spent.


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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Then you are obviousley a huge fan of this right!? Obama says deficit is falling at the fastest rate in 60 years | PolitiFact

    But then again you do realize that raising the debt ceiling doesnt mean that we are gonna add more to the debt or deficit it simply means that it allows the Treasury Department to pay for what Congress has already spent.
    Falling from what? The highest deficits ever recorded? Wow, we had a 680 billion dollar deficit and you Obama supporters are taking victory laps. Such low standards you have. How much of that deficit reduction was due to elimination of the Payroll tax holiday or doesn't that count?

    What is it about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty and that of the 42 percent that still support Obama? It distorted information like you are posting that gives you zero credibility.

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Good. Now it won't be a silly issue for the Dems to campaign on in November. The debt ceiling is a dumb issue to fall on your proverbial sword over. Want to cut spending? Then pass the bills that do it and let the debate begin.
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Falling from what? The highest deficits ever recorded? Wow, we had a 680 billion dollar deficit and you Obama supporters are taking victory laps. Such low standards you have. How much of that deficit reduction was due to elimination of the Payroll tax holiday or doesn't that count?
    Oh so now its not a good thing the deficit is falling?


    What is it about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty and that of the 42 percent that still support Obama? It distorted information like you are posting that gives you zero credibility.
    Im not a liberal.


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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am pretty sure his supporters aren't going to like the outcome of this Fall's election.
    Right. Thats why the GOP went for the straight vote. Hence the topic.
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    What? Uh....no.
    Here's so more proof....

    Mixture of electoral politics and the divisive party, oh and dont forget that snow storm..
    "In a private lunch, Senate Republicans were more concerned about “getting the hell out of town” before an impending snowstorm than digging in on a fight they once relished, according to a GOP senator...... And Boehner even privately told conservatives Tuesday they should be relieved because the concession got the “monkey off our backs,” sources said.... “I’m one who truly believes that if we get this issue behind us, and behave ourselves, we’ll be in the majority here on this side, in the next six months,” said Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.)." The GOP's debt ceiling surrender - Manu Raju and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com


    Essentially the Republicans had no choice.


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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Here's so more proof....

    Mixture of electoral politics and the divisive party, oh and dont forget that snow storm..
    "In a private lunch, Senate Republicans were more concerned about “getting the hell out of town” before an impending snowstorm than digging in on a fight they once relished, according to a GOP senator...... And Boehner even privately told conservatives Tuesday they should be relieved because the concession got the “monkey off our backs,” sources said.... “I’m one who truly believes that if we get this issue behind us, and behave ourselves, we’ll be in the majority here on this side, in the next six months,” said Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.)." The GOP's debt ceiling surrender - Manu Raju and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com


    Essentially the Republicans had no choice.
    I think you're right on both accounts. The snow storm and a chance on winning the senate in November. The Republicans do have a 50-50 shot at it, but I wouldn't worry. There will always be an Aiken the GOP nominates in a sure win state, a pick up that they will lose. Then there are the tea party challenges to sitting incumbent GOP senators that the tea party will either upset with a candidate that can't win in November or tar the incumbent so bad he can't win. Smooth sailing, my eye.
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    LOL what?
    "What" is that the word you said 351, not surprising when theres a rush to the quick and easy. .....you mean you have been confused about the Democrats and their thought concept of Using the Federal Civilian Sector as a means of reliance over the US Military? Now why is that not surprising at all.

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Here's so more proof....

    Mixture of electoral politics and the divisive party, oh and dont forget that snow storm..
    "In a private lunch, Senate Republicans were more concerned about “getting the hell out of town” before an impending snowstorm than digging in on a fight they once relished, according to a GOP senator...... And Boehner even privately told conservatives Tuesday they should be relieved because the concession got the “monkey off our backs,” sources said.... “I’m one who truly believes that if we get this issue behind us, and behave ourselves, we’ll be in the majority here on this side, in the next six months,” said Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.)." The GOP's debt ceiling surrender - Manu Raju and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com


    Essentially the Republicans had no choice.
    I think it's more electoral politics than anything else.

    ... 218 are needed to pass and the clean debt limit passed the House with 221 votes.
    To me it's pretty obvious there was arm twisting by Boehner to get enough Pub ayes to complement the Dem ayes to pass the thing while at the same time allowing the Pub nays to be able to say they were nays.

    Now that it goes to the Senate all the Senate Pubs can posture & bitch & moan all they want to no effect.

    On top of that, it's being said no one in the entire Country has legal standing to challenge Obama's sovereignty in the Courts regarding his decisions re Obamacare implementation .

    What a Country ... brings a tear to the eye, dunnit?

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