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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Got it, if a Democrat spends it is ok and a debt to GDP Percent over 100% doesn't matter since it is a Democrat doing the spending.
    Wait a tic i thought we have separation of powers......

    Then there is the Reagan argument, since Reagan did it, therefore it is ok for Obama to do it even though the Reagan ratio was 50% of GDP. Is 50% more or less than the over 100% now?
    He was the one that started to make it skyrocket, was he not?
    Just kinda interesting that once a democrat gets in the White House all the sudden we are all "worried about the debt"

    Raising Taxes is always the first alternative for a liberal even though raising taxes won't even come close to making a difference but that doesn't matter because rhetoric trumps substance. The Obama tax proposal if fully implemented and generated the promised results would reduce the deficit by 80 billion dollars. When was the last Obama projection that was correct and how will 80 billion dollars a year make a difference to the incredible debt Obama has generated?
    It brought in 1.4 trillion alone in 2007...


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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Is there an actual explanation for this apparent surrender? I'm surprised, what changed?

    Honest question seeking honest answer/
    Are you kidding me"?

    What changed is that this is an election year.

    The GOP knows it can **** up the country in off years, but when they need votes, they have to act somewhat rationally.

    Of course, their inability to do anything with immigration belies this stance... but cest la vie.
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Boehner is a yellow-belly.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wait a tic i thought we have separation of powers......


    He was the one that started to make it skyrocket, was he not?
    Just kinda interesting that once a democrat gets in the White House all the sudden we are all "worried about the debt"


    It brought in 1.4 trillion alone in 2007...
    Depends on your definition of a skyrocket, adding 17 million jobs and doubling GDP certainly would qualify as a good skyrocket wouldn't you say?

    Was Obama in office in 2007? Thought the Bush tax cuts were in effect that year?

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Are you kidding me"?

    What changed is that this is an election year.

    The GOP knows it can **** up the country in off years, but when they need votes, they have to act somewhat rationally.

    Of course, their inability to do anything with immigration belies this stance... but cest la vie.

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Did you notice that they actually altered the Y-axis to get it to fit that way?
    LOL!!

    They are TWO DIFFERENT SCALES on the Y axis.

    Thats the funniest use of a graph I've ever seen. Its even funnier that people could look at it and actually believe it says something about the current market.
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Depends on your definition of a skyrocket, adding 17 million jobs and doubling GDP certainly would qualify as a good skyrocket wouldn't you say?
    Wait i thought we were talking about the debt/deficit.
    Moving the goalposts i see.


    Was Obama in office in 2007? Thought the Bush tax cuts were in effect that year?
    They were... And pretty much still are for the vast vast majority of population.


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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    I'm pretty sure he's not up for re-election this year.

    But irregardless, the Republicans can only **** this election up (like theyve done the last few). Not doing destructive and pointless fighting over stupiid stuff like the debt ceiling is a step in the positive direction.
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wait i thought we were talking about the debt/deficit.
    Moving the goalposts i see.



    They were... And pretty much still are for the vast vast majority of population.
    We are, that deficit of 1.7 trillion dollars generated those numbers which equated to 50 percent of GDP? You don't seem to understand ROI either nor the peace dividend created. Debt generating positive results like that is management. Obama's isn't

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I'm pretty sure he's not up for re-election this year.

    But irregardless, the Republicans can only **** this election up (like theyve done the last few). Not doing destructive and pointless fighting over stupiid stuff like the debt ceiling is a step in the positive direction.
    I am pretty sure his supporters aren't going to like the outcome of this Fall's election.

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