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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    What? Uh....no.
    Yes....
    The moderate elements of the GOP and the more conservative elements could come to agree with eachother.
    "This time, however, Boehner could not get his caucus to agree on what to ask for. Even a relatively modest proposal to repeal a slight cut in military pension cost-of-living increases floated among members earlier this week could not generate enough support among more conservative members" House approves ‘clean’ debt-ceiling increase | Al Jazeera America


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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Did you take notice of the market piece I included in my OP?

    Scary 1929 market chart gains traction - Mark Hulbert - MarketWatch

    Pay attention to the graph....
    Did you notice that they actually altered the Y-axis to get it to fit that way?
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Did you notice that they actually altered the Y-axis to get it to fit that way?
    Please explain...
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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    It just passed got an update from Politico.
    When Bohner couldn't even get conservative members in the GOP caucus to agree on what they want to cut and what they want to stay or if they should yet again for the 1 millionth time try to repeal the ACA he had no other choice but to put this on the schedule to vote.

    Just goes to show how times have changed and how Democrats haven't seen a dollar that they didn't want to spend to buy votes.

    The Quote of the Decade:

    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, 'the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

    ~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
    Debt to GDP exceeds 100% so Democrats please let me know the last time that occurred. That devil Reagan had a 50% Debt to GDP ratio and he is demonized

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Just goes to show how times have changed and how Democrats haven't seen a dollar that they didn't want to spend to buy votes.
    Or that all these things dont have to be attached to a bill raising the debt ceiling since essentially that would make those things not necessary if they were attached to the bill because they have little to nothing when it comes to raising a debt ceiling. Afterall if the conservatives want these things they should bring them to the floor in a seperate bill not attach them to the debt ceiling bill.

    The Quote of the Decade:
    Wow a politician flip flopping and doing things for cheap political gain! Say it aint so! I bet no one in the GOP does this!
    But if thats your "quote of the decade" then man....


    Debt to GDP exceeds 100% so Democrats please let me know the last time that occurred. That devil Reagan had a 50% Debt to GDP ratio and he is demonized
    Well saying you know the guy that started this big spending habit was a little guy named Ronald Reagan.. But its kinda hard to lower your debt when you cant bring in money (raise taxes)


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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Or that all these things dont have to be attached to a bill raising the debt ceiling since essentially that would make those things not necessary if they were attached to the bill because they have little to nothing when it comes to raising a debt ceiling. Afterall if the conservatives want these things they should bring them to the floor in a seperate bill not attach them to the debt ceiling bill.


    Wow a politician flip flopping and doing things for cheap political gain! Say it aint so! I bet no one in the GOP does this!
    But if thats your "quote of the decade" then man....



    Well saying you know the guy that started this big spending habit was a little guy named Ronald Reagan.. But its kinda hard to lower your debt when you cant bring in money (raise taxes)
    Got it, if a Democrat spends it is ok and a debt to GDP Percent over 100% doesn't matter since it is a Democrat doing the spending.

    Then there is the Reagan argument, since Reagan did it, therefore it is ok for Obama to do it even though the Reagan ratio was 50% of GDP. Is 50% more or less than the over 100% now?

    Raising Taxes is always the first alternative for a liberal even though raising taxes won't even come close to making a difference but that doesn't matter because rhetoric trumps substance. The Obama tax proposal if fully implemented and generated the promised results would reduce the deficit by 80 billion dollars. When was the last Obama projection that was correct and how will 80 billion dollars a year make a difference to the incredible debt Obama has generated?

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Please explain...
    The graph fraudulently portrays the two trends as similar, despite the fact that the 28-29 increase was a gain of nearly 100 percent whereas the recent gain was less than a third. The two are nowhere near proportional.

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    It's a crying shame how you treat your fellow veteran.
    Its a shame how he has been treating his fellow Veterans as well as those who he claims to identify with......while allowing Obama to purge the military of what the Democrats and Left Knows can deal with their police state without breaking a swet, huh?

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its a shame how he has been treating his fellow Veterans as well as those who he claims to identify with......while allowing Obama to purge the military of what the Democrats and Left Knows can deal with their police state without breaking a swet, huh?
    LOL what?

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    Re: Boehner to Bring Debt Ceiling to Vote Without Policy Attachments

    I feel like we are having the same debate every three months. Anyway, this is just more evidence govt is on autopilot and no one wants to do anything that would affect the election. Cowards and negligence in both parties. We'll be right back here after the election doing the very same thing: procrastinating. And Ill bet you right now that 90% of the people in office will be right back in the same place doing the same things for 2 more years.

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