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    Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

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    After more than a half-century of official United States hostility toward Cuba punctuated by a comprehensive trade embargo, a majority of Americans — and an even greater majority of Floridians, home to this country’s largest Cuban-American population — now favor normalizing relations or engaging more directly with the Cuban government, according to a nonpartisan survey.

    The results of the survey (pdf), commissioned by the Atlantic Council, a prominent Washington research institution, and released on Tuesday, were described by the group as an unprecedented reflection of shifting American attitudes toward Cuba that confound some long-held assumptions, particularly about Cuban-American antipathy toward the government of Raúl Castro.

    The results also come against a backdrop of increasing sentiment in Florida and elsewhere that the American economic and political isolation of Cuba, one of the most enduring elements of United States foreign policy, not only has failed to satisfy its purpose of unseating the Castro government but may even be helping to perpetuate it.

    “This survey shows that the majority of Americans on both sides of the aisle are ready for a policy shift,” Peter Schechter and Jason Marczak, the top two executives at the Adrienne Arsht Latin America Center of the Atlantic Council, wrote in an introduction to the survey. “Most surprisingly, Floridians are even more supportive than an already supportive nation to incrementally or fully change course.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/wo...oll-finds.html
    This isn't much of a surprise poll if you are politically attuned. I haven’t the slightest of ideas why we still have trade embargoes and travel restrictions on Cuba. Although I'm certain that we might be able to tease out some DP posters who believe this is a bad idea.

    My only concern is - as the NYT article mentions - human rights in Cuba. Yetl I find it strange that anyone would believe that the US (and Cubans) is better at increasing respect for human rights by isolating the Cuba. All that type [of diplomacy] achieves is an echo chamber for the Cuban government. Free trade, American tourist dollars and free movement are much better at spreading ideas and (given Cuban censorship) sharing restricted materials deemed to be dangerous.

    Moreover, I'm jealous that only the Chinese and Venezuelans are able to sit on Cuban beaches sipping piña coladas.
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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

    I'm going to come off ignorant when I say this... but I thought cuba was famous for drugs and crime? and the travel restrictions were to keep the american people safe.... But I don't know much about cuba :/

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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

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    I'm going to come off ignorant when I say this... but I thought cuba was famous for drugs and crime? and the travel restrictions were to keep the american people safe.... But I don't know much about cuba :/
    In that case we should have an embargo on Florida.
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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    but I thought cuba was famous for drugs and crime? and the travel restrictions were to keep the american people safe.... :/
    Nah......that was pre-revolution.
    I think the mob had a big presence in Cuba pre-Castro.
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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post

    Moreover, I'm jealous that only the Chinese and Venezuelans are able to sit on Cuban beaches sipping piña coladas.
    Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    In that case we should have an embargo on Florida.
    Does florida have some serious crime issues that I don't hear about? or was this a joke?

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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    I'm going to come off ignorant when I say this... but I thought cuba was famous for drugs and crime? and the travel restrictions were to keep the american people safe.... But I don't know much about cuba :/
    The embargo was enacted as a result of the Cuban Revolution, and Fidel Castro's ascent to power.

    United States embargo against Cuba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    The embargo was enacted as a result of the Cuban Revolution, and Fidel Castro's ascent to power.

    United States embargo against Cuba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Buuut I don't wanna read D:

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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    This isn't much of a surprise poll if you are politically attuned. I haven’t the slightest of ideas why we still have trade embargoes and travel restrictions on Cuba. Although I'm certain that we might be able to tease out some DP posters who believe this is a bad idea.

    My only concern is - as the NYT article mentions - human rights in Cuba. Yetl I find it strange that anyone would believe that the US (and Cubans) is better at increasing respect for human rights by isolating the Cuba. All that type [of diplomacy] achieves is an echo chamber for the Cuban government. Free trade, American tourist dollars and free movement are much better at spreading ideas and (given Cuban censorship) sharing restricted materials deemed to be dangerous.

    Moreover, I'm jealous that only the Chinese and Venezuelans are able to sit on Cuban beaches sipping piña coladas.
    It does seem a bit quaint to treat Cuba with sanctions. That country lost its importance as an enemy, when the Soviet went down. Now there is no reason why they can't be freinds. All they do is pay restitution for the assets they robbed Americans of and all is well.

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    Re: Majority of Americans Favor Ties With Cuba, Poll Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It does seem a bit quaint to treat Cuba with sanctions. That country lost its importance as an enemy, when the Soviet went down. Now there is no reason why they can't be freinds. All they do is pay restitution for the assets they robbed Americans of and all is well.
    Did you pay us back after your revolution?

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