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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I asked a question, I didn't make a statement. So, I assume the answer is that if workers unionize they will be ordered to vote Democrat and that's why the Republicans are against the UAW. That seems like a logical answer but....

    ..... it begs the question, if you work for VW and you are not in a union, do you vote differently? Theoretically, your ballot is secret so you can vote however you like and lie about it if it's uncomfortable. Even if the UAW management votes Democrat, how many management votes could there be compared to the number of line workers? isn't bringing in the jobs the more important issue? It seems like a lot to give up over a few hundred votes.
    Who the tiny number of VW workers, in TN, vote for is not the issue - it is where their union dues will go (into DNC coffers) that makes a bigger difference.
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    That's easy; unions give money to Democrats and not Republicans.
    Which is why big business and unions should not be directly or indirectly influencing elections.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    No, they are going to continue to get the ~80 million a year from the state's FastTrack program. What they would need to go back to the legislature for is additional subsidies for a proposed plant expansion, since the program doesn't get enough current funding to support the additional subsidies.

    In the end, I don't think it matters. Tenn. doesn't allow union membership to be a condition of employment.

    It seems the government is going to an extreme, stating not being part of a union is a condition of employment in this case
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It seems the government is going to an extreme, stating not being part of a union is a condition of employment in this case
    Except that isn't what they said. VW can build their expansion anywhere they want, and they will take unionization, or lack thereof, into their decision as well.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Which is why big business and unions should not be directly or indirectly influencing elections.
    No. That is why no tax exempt organization should be allowed to do so - "big business" is otherwise subjected to taxation without representation.
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It seems the government is going to an extreme, stating not being part of a union is a condition of employment in this case
    No, it is condition of subsidized employment in the state.
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No. That is why no tax exempt organization should be allowed to do so - "big business" is otherwise subjected to taxation without representation.
    Let the individuals within the organization donate and get represented.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Let the individuals within the organization donate and get represented.
    What? The individuals do not pay the business's tax bill or their cost of gov't regulation so why would they care? The individual McWorker may not pay any tax (or even get EITC) and thus may love to have McCorporate pay more taxes to keep it that way. Of course, you know this but prefer to pretend that it is "unfair" for those paying most of the taxes to more heavily influence candidates through political spending.
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Having trouble staying on topic today for some reason? Yet you'd have no trouble with the president using his political power to influence government to go after his offenders but are some how are hurt inside when the party you hate doesn't want to give subsidies to your beloved union? Impressive bit of hypocrisy but I'm not shocked.
    Difference here is you have allegations and suspiscions. Your guys came right out and admitted it.

    Youre ok if your guys abuse their power.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    There is no abuse of power. There is blatant partisanship which once in a while is necessary. Abuse of power is using legal authority to harrass another; there is no harrassment here. The Republicans were forthright in their presentation - go socialist UAW and no subsidy. Its far different then letting felons transfer firearms to Mexican cartels for the purpose of creating an anti gun agenda item, far different then using LE authority of the regime to snoop on the entire country and focus its arm on political opponents its about handing out a subsidy. I get the difference is tough for you because it hurts so bad - I say so what. Let the people of Tenn decide; maybe they love your socialist utopia so much they'll throw the Republicans out for doing so - or maybe they will thank the Republicans for preventing their state into turning into Michigan light and a total failure.


    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Difference here is you have allegations and suspiscions. Your guys came right out and admitted it.

    Youre ok if your guys abuse their power.

    Got it.

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