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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It goes way beyond the votes Speck! Sure some union guys secretly vote Republican but it's the dues going to campaigns that is the killer. DNC is robustly funded by union dues and there is no reason to subsidize that foothold for the left with tax dollars.
    You're right. I didn't think about the campaign cash. I'm such an innocent, I'm lucky to be alive.

    Still, it does seem kind of selfish. Basically, they have to choose between their careers or gaining jobs. An awkward decision but understandable in the current political landscape.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It goes way beyond the votes Speck! Sure some union guys secretly vote Republican but it's the dues going to campaigns that is the killer. DNC is robustly funded by union dues and there is no reason to subsidize that foothold for the left with tax dollars.
    Yet the president is a dick because you think he interfered with groups on the right's attempts to become sunsidized by tax dollars through tax exemption.
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Why would they care one way or the other? Am I missing something?
    They have 2 reasons to care.

    1. Politically the UAW is a Democratic fundraising organization. So Republicans would be voting to finance a huge fund raising and manpower campaign against them.

    2. Whether the company would continue to operate the facility for long would depend upon whether it remained competitive at that location.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Ahh but wait....

    I could argue they aren't choosing between their careers or the jobs; for if they go ahead and the UAW takes over they lose their jobs, and like Detroit the UAW will likely ruin the jobs in their state too. Where as if they say no, keep their careers, they can live on without the UAW and perhaps generate other jobs that make sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    You're right. I didn't think about the campaign cash. I'm such an innocent, I'm lucky to be alive.

    Still, it does seem kind of selfish. Basically, they have to choose between their careers or gaining jobs. An awkward decision but understandable in the current political landscape.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Having trouble staying on topic today for some reason? Yet you'd have no trouble with the president using his political power to influence government to go after his offenders but are some how are hurt inside when the party you hate doesn't want to give subsidies to your beloved union? Impressive bit of hypocrisy but I'm not shocked.


    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Yet the president is a dick because you think he interfered with groups on the right's attempts to become sunsidized by tax dollars through tax exemption.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    So they are willing to give hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies, but only if the company is non union
    Well no one ever claimed that all right wingers were intelligent and this case clearly shows that the inbreeding in Tennessee has worked and drawn down the IQ of their right wing politicians.
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well no one ever claimed that all right wingers were intelligent and this case clearly shows that the inbreeding in Tennessee has worked and drawn down the IQ of their right wing politicians.
    I don't know about any inbreeding in Tennessee, but I do know that they believe in the right to life---for Giraffes.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election



    So they are willing to give hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies, but only if the company is non union
    I read that as they are willing to give away hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies, but not if the UAW is involved.
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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Why would they care one way or the other? Am I missing something?
    Maybe they don't want UAW in Tennessee politics? Maybe they are trying to avoid this?

    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Tenn. politicians threaten to kill VW incentives if UAW wins election



    So they are willing to give hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies, but only if the company is non union
    No, they are going to continue to get the ~80 million a year from the state's FastTrack program. What they would need to go back to the legislature for is additional subsidies for a proposed plant expansion, since the program doesn't get enough current funding to support the additional subsidies.

    In the end, I don't think it matters. Tenn. doesn't allow union membership to be a condition of employment.

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