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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    and you can randomly label anything a horror ...
    Which is, of course, immaterial to the point. Your justification is useless as it has no rational boundary.
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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Why would I need to work at a zoo to know they call animals for similar reasons? All one would need to do is reference the AZA "Acquisition - Disposition Policy". But beyond that, I know many people who work in zoo environments
    I have a niece that is a director of an aviary at a zoo in Utah, she says you are full of it. In the states at every state ran facility they do a search to find suitable homes for unwanted or un needed animals. Private zoos may do it different, but I have been to private zoos and they need to be closed.

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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Which is, of course, immaterial to the point. Your justification is useless as it has no rational boundary.
    No, it actually shows simply calling something a "horror" does little to define it as something negative or in the wrong. Which was obviously your intent. And the question was "why would they have a public autopsy". And pointing out that many members of the public would enjoy seeing it, seems to justify that. That is, unless you are now questioning the merits of autopsy for scientific education and research.

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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, you didn't "explain it", you just regurgitated the faulty rationalization of the zoo management. Obviously there is wiigle room here given the that Yorkshire Zoo, in the same program, seemed to think they could take in the giraffe without endangering the goals of EAZA.
    lol, it was also the position of the EAZA, the organization actually managing the larger program and stud book

    It's over reach on his part.
    actually when you join a group like the aza or EAZA these are the terms you agree to.

    Why would you not sell a sterilized giraffe to a public zoo? If reason for not selling to a private zoo is fear of inbreeding then you don't have to worry about that with a sterilized giraffe! By sterilizing the giraffe you get to weed out the private zoos who only want him for breeding purposes.
    I just explained that to you: there are numerous concerns from treatment, to aiding and masking smuggling programs

    A yes, completely rational! They might risk killing the giraffe, so it's better if they just kill it instead.

    This is not was rational elimination of alternatives looks like.
    they are talking about future breeding events that would prevent such offspring, not about how to handle this situation

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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    So I was right: people taking their kids to see a dissection is children "being forced"
    So you are telling us all, that a 7 year old child has any choice in the matter? Yea right.
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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, it actually shows simply calling something a "horror" does little to define it as something negative or in the wrong. Which was obviously your intent. And the question was "why would they have a public autopsy". And pointing out that many members of the public would enjoy seeing it, seems to justify that. That is, unless you are now questioning the merits of autopsy for scientific education and research.
    No, it is saying that your justification has no rational boundary and can be used to justify anything.

    Back to the other post, care to explain why shooting an animal in the head is preferable to risking it breaking its neck?
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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I have a niece that is a director of an aviary at a zoo in Utah, she says you are full of it.
    If she is part of an aza zoo then she is a liar


    In the states at every state ran facility they do a search to find suitable homes for unwanted or un needed animals. Private zoos may do it different, but I have been to private zoos and they need to be closed.
    Where did I suggest they didn't rehouse animals if possible?

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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are telling us all, that a 7 year old child has any choice in the matter? Yea right.
    In the context you used "forced" I don't think many people would agree with including "parental discretion" under it ...

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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, it is saying that your justification has no rational boundary and can be used to justify anything.
    So you feel I need to justify autopsy as an education and research tool?

    Back to the other post, care to explain why shooting an animal in the head is preferable to risking it breaking its neck?
    because you can't read?

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    Re: Copenhagen zoo sparks outrage by killing healthy giraffe named Marius

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If she is part of an aza zoo then she is a liar


    Yea, she lied about that. Pfffft cover your ass with insults. Nice try.

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