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    Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages - CNN.com
    Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages



    (CNN) -- In a major milestone for gay rights, the United States government plans to expand recognition of same-sex marriages in federal legal matters, including bankruptcies, prison visits and survivor benefits.Attorney General Eric Holder said the Justice Department will issue a memo Monday that recognizes same-sex marriages "to the greatest extent possible under the law." The federal expansion will include 34 states where same-sex marriage isn't legal, but the new federal benefits being extended to those states will apply only where the U.S. government has jurisdiction, Holder said. For example, a same-sex couple legally married in Massachusetts can now have their federal bankruptcy proceeding recognized in Alabama, even though it doesn't allow same-sex marriages.

    "This means that, in every courthouse, in every proceeding, and in every place where a member of the Department of Justice stands on behalf of the United States -- they will strive to ensure that same-sex marriages receive the same privileges, protections and rights as opposite-sex marriages under federal law," Holder said of his initiative. Under the new policy, the Justice Department will recognize that same-sex spouses of individuals involved in civil and criminal cases should have the same legal rights as all other married couples -- including the right to decline to give testimony that might incriminate their spouses. Also, the government won't contest same-sex married couples their rights in states where previously prosecutors could argue that the marriage is not recognized in the state where the couple lives, Holder said.. In the past, the U.S. government could challenge the couple's joint bankruptcy because Alabama doesn't recognize same-sex marriage.
    Another victory for equal rights and equality!

    WHile it was already clarified before that same sex marriages in states that dont have equal rights already have the FED factually recognizing them and they are legal this is an expansion. THis was also true regardless of whether that state was granting equality or not.

    Now they are clarifying even further and expanding even further making everything as equal as possible, federally.

    This is just another stepping stone in the road to national equal rights!



    #EqualRightsAreWinning!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Same-Sex Spouses Get New Federal Rights, Holder Says - WSJ.com
    Justice Department to give married same-sex couples sweeping equal protection - The Washington Post
    Federal Government Expands Legal Rights to Same-Sex Marriages | FOX17online.com
    Federal government to expand recognition of same-sex marriage - latimes.com
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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

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    Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages - CNN.com


    Another victory for equal rights and equality!

    WHile it was already clarified before that same sex marriages in states that dont have equal rights already have the FED factually recognizing them and they are legal this is an expansion. THis was also true regardless of whether that state was granting equality or not.

    Now they are clarifying even further and expanding even further making everything as equal as possible, federally.

    This is just another stepping stone in the road to national equal rights!



    #EqualRightsAreWinning!!!!!!!!!!!!


    back up links:
    Same-Sex Spouses Get New Federal Rights, Holder Says - WSJ.com
    Justice Department to give married same-sex couples sweeping equal protection - The Washington Post
    Federal Government Expands Legal Rights to Same-Sex Marriages | FOX17online.com
    Federal government to expand recognition of same-sex marriage - latimes.com
    Too bad they ignored the law to get there. Kinda cheapens the victory.
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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

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    Too bad they ignored the law to get there. Kinda cheapens the victory.
    what law?
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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    what law?
    The Federal law that prohibits the VA from providing benefits to gays.

    Obama administration won't enforce VA ban on same-sex benefits - CNN.com

    Breaking the law, to help people, isn't helping anyone. It's a sad day in this country when the president circumvents the law to suit his agenda.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Federal law that prohibits the VA from providing benefits to gays.

    Obama administration won't enforce VA ban on same-sex benefits - CNN.com

    Breaking the law, to help people, isn't helping anyone. It's a sad day in this country when the president circumvents the law to suit his agenda.
    Breaking the law by government is becoming rather common the world over, it would appear. That is not a very comfortable thought.

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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Federal law that prohibits the VA from providing benefits to gays.

    Obama administration won't enforce VA ban on same-sex benefits - CNN.com

    Breaking the law, to help people, isn't helping anyone. It's a sad day in this country when the president circumvents the law to suit his agenda.
    weird the your link disagrees with your "opinion" what makes your opinion fact over DOMA being struck down and the process they went though?

    also whats september 4th have to do with this topic and this info coming out today and it being done legally?

    The Justice Department has been reviewing federal rules and regulations to see what it can legally change on its own without legislation from Congress.
    so again, what law are you talking about, factually
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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    weird the your link disagrees with your "opinion" what makes your opinion fact over DOMA being struck down and the process they went though?

    also whats september 4th have to do with this topic and this info coming out today and it being done legally?



    so again, what law are you talking about, factually
    OK, let's try this one...

    "While the Supreme Court's ruling in the Windsor case last summer required the federal government to recognize such unions in states which also recognize them, the Court was conspicuously silent on the status of such couples when they reside in a state which considers them unmarried," Perkins pointed out. "The Obama administrations haste to nevertheless recognize such unions in every state actually runs counter to the Windsor decisions emphasis on the federal government's obligation to defer to state definitions of marriage."

    Justice Department to Extend Benefits to Same-Sex Couples in All US States
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    OK, let's try this one...
    what are we trying?
    are you trying to move from YOUR opinion to now the opinion of Tony Perkins?

    the president of Family Research Council???

    just based on your posts here (we'll let that speak for itself) your opinion is better than his LMAO , nobody honest takes the FRC seriously they are a hate group.

    so try again, i ask what law are you talking about, factually?

    and let it be known if there is a law FACTUALLY being broken i will agree thats not the way to go
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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Uh oh, this is going to upset jesus, who will now start punishing us with hurricanes and snow storms.

    And who gives a flying rat's ass about violating a law that specifically denied equal rights to certain citizens? If there were a law that black people didn't have voting rights, I wouldn't be upset if that law were broken either.

    As far as I'm concerned, any law that is applied unequally and unjustly isn't a law at all.
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    Re: Feds to expand legal benefits, services for same-sex marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Uh oh, this is going to upset jesus, who will now start punishing us with hurricanes and snow storms.

    And who gives a flying rat's ass about violating a law that specifically denied equal rights to certain citizens? If there were a law that black people didn't have voting rights, I wouldn't be upset if that law were broken either.

    As far as I'm concerned, any law that is applied unequally and unjustly isn't a law at all.
    LOL well the jesus "extremists" were already upset when they learned that FED already recognized marriage "federally" so they will get over it

    also while i do agree in principle about laws violating rights I would prefer its done the right way but, theres no factual evidence of it being the wrong way. Its just a way people dont like. Well . . . oh well
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