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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What advise could Tim Tebow give about being IN the NFL?
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Switch positions?
    Tebow played "left home" at away games.










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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I think Sam could have avoided this entire madness if he simply taken the time to consult with Tim Tebow concerning how to be gay in the NFL.

    I won't post it here because it is very NSFW, but Gilbert Gottfried did a hilarious rant about this and how Tebow should be the first gay player. It is on Youtube "The Burn: Gay Players in the NFL"
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    I hope this has not been posted, if so apologies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    ...just look around this site at the LGBT threads.

    I think this is a very positive step forward in the LGBT fight for complete acceptance.
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    I think the T's should stop riding on the coat tails of the L G & B's. Everyone loves the L's, the G's you can take or leave, the B's it depends what sex they are, but the T's. No one likes the T's. They are always an afterthought. Someone just tagged the T to the LGB and it seems to have stuck

    I say lets decouple the T from the LGB. I don't like the idea of trying to take away all of our sexual predjudices in one fell swoop. It is not the American way. In reality we should just give them up one at a time. I realise it would be difficult to give up predjudices against the L's without also giving them up for the G's. If you have given them up for the L's and the G's the B's don't give you much to hang your hat on, so I can see why they are lumped in with the other two.

    But I still think we could give equal rights to the LGB communities and still hang on to our predjudices to the T's for a while longer.

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    I think the T's should stop riding on the coat tails of the L G & B's. Everyone loves the L's, the G's you can take or leave, the B's it depends what sex they are, but the T's. No one likes the T's. They are always an afterthought. Someone just tagged the T to the LGB and it seems to have stuck

    I say lets decouple the T from the LGB. I don't like the idea of trying to take away all of our sexual predjudices in one fell swoop. It is not the American way. In reality we should just give them up one at a time. I realise it would be difficult to give up predjudices against the L's without also giving them up for the G's. If you have given them up for the L's and the G's the B's don't give you much to hang your hat on, so I can see why they are lumped in with the other two.

    But I still think we could give equal rights to the LGB communities and still hang on to our predjudices to the T's for a while longer.

    All in favor?
    I agree we should decouple the Ts from the LGBs. consider, is a T really LG or B? If you are male but think you should have been female and you are attracted to guys, are you really gay? If you are female and think you should have been male and are attracted to females, are you really lesbian?

    take Chaz Bono as an example. lesbian chasity was living with her lesbian girl friend. chasity becomes Chaz and lesbian GF breaks up with "him" because.....she's a lesbian and isn't attracted to guys, which Chaz now is.....
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I agree we should decouple the Ts from the LGBs. consider, is a T really LG or B? If you are male but think you should have been female and you are attracted to guys, are you really gay? If you are female and think you should have been male and are attracted to females, are you really lesbian?

    take Chaz Bono as an example. lesbian chasity was living with her lesbian girl friend. chasity becomes Chaz and lesbian GF breaks up with "him" because.....she's a lesbian and isn't attracted to guys, which Chaz now is.....
    I think they choose to band together because the hatred toward them is very similar, often from very similar sources. The gays and the trans are about accepting people for who they are and their right to live their life, so there is common ground there.

    You'd think they'd find common ground with Libertarians, but too many claimants to that title are really "Republitarians."


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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    While this perhaps should get its own thread as it has as much to do with general bullying (and i don't even know if the target is gay), here is even more proof of how neanderthal the nfl remains: The worst of the Richie Incognito/Jonathan Martin report - SBNation.com

    "Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey began regularly calling Martin a "****," a "bitch," a "pussy" and a "faggot.""

    "During the 2012 Christmas season, Coach Turner gave all of the offensive linemen gift bags that included a variety of stocking stuffers. In each gift bag except for Player A's, Turner included a female "blow-up" doll; Player A's bag included a male doll. Martin and another player were surprised that Turner did this; Martin further said that he was offended that Turner had endorsed the humiliating treatment of Player A by participating in it. Incognito and others agreed that this incident with Coach Turner occurred. When interviewed, Turner was asked if he gave Player A a male blow-up doll. He replied, "I can't remember." We do not believe that Turner forgot this incident, which many others recalled."

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I just did. Like I just wrote, we can't discuss the issue if you simply ignore what I write here



    except for the fact that he is now openly gay. And allowing him to shower with the other players is something we would not accept if we were discussing a female player. So clearly it's a double standard.

    But that is ok, because it's a rather trite and unimportant issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    because homosexuality is something we are just coming to terms with. Really, why do you think it's such a hotly debated issue and constantly in the news?
    I saw this fail analogy somewhere else: that football players should be able to enter the dallas cheerleaders' locker room if gays can enter the football team's. Well!

    What is the point of that exactly? Unlike with the cheerleaders, in a team locker room, coaching goes on, very gay-looking activity by supposedly heterosexual men goes on, clearly serious stuff that ought to be valued more than the individual's right to participate on an athletic team /s

    There is *no way* unless he has a death wish that michael sam is going to be groping 50 of his teammates in the shower, or whatever the unspoken fear is. One-two small cheerleaders or even a handful in there with an nfl team, i would not bet on their safety. That's the difference. Not to mention that unless there's a female on the team, she simply doesn't belong naked in the locker room with them.

    I don't know why you would shun your teammate but for god sakes, if it's such a *huge* deal like some are making it, put up shower curtains! This novel technology. These excuses are so pathetic, identical to what the military fell back on and it's really just about keeping the gays out of sports.

    Well his missouri team didn't seem to have a problem with it all year, my intramural doesn't have a problem, the dorm floor didn't, what possible excuse does the nfl have left?

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