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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    True enough.



    I'd love to go through and dissect this, but I don't have the time. But, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "The reality is, right or wrong, our media and our public is going to mindlessly pound the drums of this story till kingdom come because it transcends politicsl into social and political issues. That's not the case with a guy getting drunk and running down a pedestrian. And as such, there's going to be a lot more media distractions for the former than there is for the latter. And when it comes down to football decisions, that makes it a bigger negative." Indeed it does. And, I think almost all Americans would agree those actions are wrong, but there's a divide in America that argues whether or not homosexuality is wrong and that's what we're witnessing.
    It's all about the sensationalism. That's what "journalism" is now.
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The whole "coming out" thing is just strange to me. Does liking intercourse with men require an announcement from anyone? Does it serve a purpose? Is it anyone's business? Should anyone be concerned one way or the other? Isn't it the point that people should be able to keep their private lives private?
    You can't possibly believe this makes sense. You understand he announced it because someone else was going to. I wish that it was considered normal to be attracted to people of the same sex but it is a story because if nothing is said it is assumed that he would be straight.



    I don't remember Dirk Nowitzky "coming out" to tell people he liked black women before he married a black woman. I don't remember James Carville "coming out" before he married a staunch conservative. A gay man should have to announce he likes gay men to be with gay men. We all have the right to whatever in that regard.
    Funny you should say that about Dirk, you think he wouldn't have had to hide that 50 years ago?


    I understand why Michael Sam did it. Someone was about go public with it, and he wanted to control the message, which he's done just fine. People need to mind their own business.
    Yes so join me in supporting marriage for people who want to marry someone of the same sex.

    But overall, this constant crush of media pressure to "normalize" homosexuality is, if anything, beginning to turn straight people off more. It's not normal. Perfectly legal, and not of any great concern or business of mine, but it ain't normal. Buy a Biology book. The media seems hell-bent on it purely and solely for the purpose of needling heterosexuals, particularly those of a conservative or religious slant. There's nothing really substantive to it otherwise.
    So here is the real thing. It is important to you to hide homosexuality because you think it isn't normal. As for the biology book you should read one that shows homosexuality is normal and frankly pretty common in the animal kingdom. But it is the height of irony to say, "why should anyone care?" and then say "It's not normal". hmmmm

    Meanwhile, there's this codependent need among some gays to be acknowledged as "courageous" and receive some sort of reality celebrity spotlight from it all. As if having sex with a man is akin to climbing Mount Everest or something. There's nothing admirable or courageous about being gay. Sorry.
    There is when the world amplifies bigotry.....

    Rant over.
    I doubt it.

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Most homosexual activists want #1 in a big way, especially the spending money part. Because spending money is power. And power is the real objective.
    How bizarre. Something tells me you're shooting from the hip here.

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    This should not be considered news. I am all for gay rights. I have nothing in any way against this young man being true about himself. But it shouldn't matter. The media has no business here. Yes, he is gay. Yes, he might be the first active gay NFL player if drafted. But that does not make him any different. We need to stop polarizing this argument by making it so in your face.
    Can you imagine if instead of announcing it he simply showed a little normal modest public affection to whoever his current squeeze is and just let the chips fall where they may? Conservatives (perhaps even some Moderates) would still be saying "He's shoving it down our throats". Now at least he will be left to act reasonably normal in public with his boyfriend(s), while finding out whether or not he can have a career in the field that he loves.

    This issue is polarized by the intolerant, not the people hammering out the road to normalcy.
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Can you imagine if instead of announcing it he simply showed a little normal modest public affection to whoever his current squeeze is and just let the chips fall where they may? Conservatives (perhaps even some Moderates) would still be saying "He's shoving it down our throats". Now at least he will be left to act reasonably normal in public with his boyfriend(s), while finding out whether or not he can have a career in the field that he loves.

    This issue is polarized by the intolerant, not the people hammering out the road to normalcy.
    Don't forget the "What else is he hiding?" questions too.
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The whole "coming out" thing is just strange to me. Does liking intercourse with men require an announcement from anyone? Does it serve a purpose? Is it anyone's business? Should anyone be concerned one way or the other? Isn't it the point that people should be able to keep their private lives private?

    I don't remember Dirk Nowitzky "coming out" to tell people he liked black women before he married a black woman. I don't remember James Carville "coming out" before he married a staunch conservative. A gay man should have to announce he likes gay men to be with gay men. We all have the right to whatever in that regard.

    I understand why Michael Sam did it. Someone was about go public with it, and he wanted to control the message, which he's done just fine. People need to mind their own business.

    But overall, this constant crush of media pressure to "normalize" homosexuality is, if anything, beginning to turn straight people off more. It's not normal. Perfectly legal, and not of any great concern or business of mine, but it ain't normal. Buy a Biology book. The media seems hell-bent on it purely and solely for the purpose of needling heterosexuals, particularly those of a conservative or religious slant. There's nothing really substantive to it otherwise.

    Meanwhile, there's this codependent need among some gays to be acknowledged as "courageous" and receive some sort of reality celebrity spotlight from it all. As if having sex with a man is akin to climbing Mount Everest or something. There's nothing admirable or courageous about being gay. Sorry.

    Rant over.
    The reason non-famous people "come out" is because they just can't bear the thought of giving their loved one a peck on the cheek when saying good bye will be met with shock and dismay by any of their family. They come out because it is easier than dealing with completely closed minded jerks when they have to announce that they are bringing their boyfriend home for Thanksgiving. It is a kindness both to themselves and to their family to deal with things in stages.

    It is absolutely pathetic that you think YOU are put upon by the process. Not by a long shot.
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    I think Sam could have avoided this entire madness if he simply taken the time to consult with Tim Tebow concerning how to be gay in the NFL.










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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I think Sam could have avoided this entire madness if he simply taken the time to consult with Tim Tebow concerning how to be gay in the NFL.


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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I think Sam could have avoided this entire madness if he simply taken the time to consult with Tim Tebow concerning how to be gay in the NFL.
    What advise could Tim Tebow give about being IN the NFL?

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What advise could Tim Tebow give about being IN the NFL?
    Switch positions?
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