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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Social norms haven't dictated that there be separate "gay" locker rooms in the past. Why does that change now?
    because homosexuality is something we are just coming to terms with. Really, why do you think it's such a hotly debated issue and constantly in the news?

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Sure it did. We've all showered with gay men whether we knew it or not, and I can't say I've seen an erection in the locker room. Social norms or not, it's already happened, and it's not been an issue.
    you keep ignoring my argument. We can't really discuss a topic if you raise a point, I reply to it, and you reaction is to simply repeat yourself

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you keep ignoring my argument. We can't really discuss a topic if you raise a point, I reply to it, and you reaction is to simply repeat yourself

    Yes, you reply to it by repeating your script about "social norms." It's never been an issue before, and you can't tell us why it's different now.

    Did Sam shower after games in college? Did he do so with his teammates? Did they know he was gay? We know the answer to the last one is yes, and we presume that most likely the other two are also. I doubt it's likely to be any different in the NFL.


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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes, you reply to it by repeating your script about "social norms." It's never been an issue before, and you can't tell us why it's different now.
    I just did. Like I just wrote, we can't discuss the issue if you simply ignore what I write here

    Did Sam shower after games in college? Did he do so with his teammates? Did they know he was gay? We know the answer to the last one is yes, and we presume that most likely the other two are also. I doubt it's likely to be any different in the NFL.
    except for the fact that he is now openly gay. And allowing him to shower with the other players is something we would not accept if we were discussing a female player. So clearly it's a double standard.

    But that is ok, because it's a rather trite and unimportant issue.

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    What else is there to worry about?

    Have you ever been in a unisex shower room? There isn't much rape going on

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    no ****, but the point is that the segregation is based on sexual attraction. With homosexuals, such sexual attraction would be analogous to emn and women ...
    It's the byproducts of that attraction that are the concern. I'm sorry if it is unsettling to you that gay men can control their attractions better than straight men.
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    It should have never been an issue in the first place. There should not be a barrier.
    You think they don't have gay players in the NFL?
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Have you ever been in a unisex shower room? There isn't much rape going on
    I don't even know where to find a unisex shower room.
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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    It's the byproducts of that attraction that are the concern. I'm sorry if it is unsettling to you that gay men can control their attractions better than straight men.
    you making an empty and baseless assertion isn't raising a fact.

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    Re: All-American college football player Michael Sam says he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you making an empty and baseless assertion isn't raising a fact.
    How many men have been raped in NFL locker rooms?

    Zero, that's a fact.
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