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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Is it just me or is it more then a little disturbing that we trust peoples judgment enough when they are empowered to determine that a threat is "real" enough to shoot someone but we won't trust a woman's judgment enough to decide for herself when she has been forced to have sex against her will. Hmmm
    But the thing is, according to the article, she claims she was NOT forced. She says that no force or threats of violence were used, so I am still trying to figure this out.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Since there were no threats, violence or force used, maybe he hypnotized her to stay with him for 3 years and have sex with him against her will. The guy was like Svengali, and she had no control over her own body.
    In addition to implanting subliminal hypnotic suggestions, to the effect that she refuse to divulge the particulars, while dragging him over the coals publicly.

    BS thread is BS.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    But the thing is, according to the article, she claims she was NOT forced. She says that no force or threats of violence were used, so I am still trying to figure this out.



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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Rape victims don't act the way she acts. That's why she has zero credibility.
    How is she acting?
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    blacks engage in racism far more than women engage in rape though
    There's the whole 'can black people be racist?' debate. I say no, but that's for another thread. I can't speak to the US judiciary, but here, a woman can't directly commit rape. She can be charged as an accomplice, but she can't perpetrate the act itself.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Because her definition of "coercion" is akin to a guy nudging her shoulder and saying "c'moooooon" or "you'd do it if you loved me". My God, the monster.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Entrenched racism at every level of society? Nah.
    No arguing with logic like that.

    Cheers, Jack.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    How is she acting?
    Sketchy, unreliable, and with an obvious axe to grind. This is why she waited a month - all potential evidence of her lying goes bye-bye. Now she can sling accusations from a safe distance.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    But the thing is, according to the article, she claims she was NOT forced. She says that no force or threats of violence were used, so I am still trying to figure this out.
    from the article:

    Espinosa insists that he coerced her, psychologically and physically, into having sex against her will for most of their three-year relationship. She resisted, told him no, pushed him away.

    reference the DOJ definition of rape from my earlier post.

    People are turning this into a battle between him and her. I haven't taken a side. I am defending her right to speak up and heard and not immediately dismissed. I find the ease and the immediacy with which she was dismissed here disturbing
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Is it just me or is it more then a little disturbing that we trust peoples judgment enough when they are empowered to determine that a threat is "real" enough to shoot someone but we won't trust a woman's judgment enough to decide for herself when she has been forced to have sex against her will. Hmmm
    How do you draw any parallels there, beyond a nebulous description of 'judgement' with no recourse to context?

    We have no evidence to suggest she had sex against her will, other than her (extremely belated) claim of such.

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