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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Frankly the best way to greatly reduce rape on campus would be to ban alcohol, drugs and parties and then enforce this in a draconian fashion.


    Of course, that isn't going to happen. After all, **** education, that's what college is FOR, right?



    A little more realistically...

    1. Arm and train the young ladies. If not guns, then tasers, ASP batons and pepperspray and Jiu-jitsu classes and brass knuckles and switchblades.
    2. Teach them that getting ****faced drunk around people you don't know so well is a really bad idea, as is taking drugs with the same class of people.


    Failing that, I dunno, maybe hire another thousand campus police and have them follow the girls around everywhere... um, wait... :

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No, I'm saying that at this point we don't know the details of her claim that she was physically and psychologically coerced either because she is unwilling to share them or they have not come out yet. That does not mean that they don't exist.

    You're behavior is a little over the top given what we know for sure. A whore...really? A pissed off bitch....really? You are discrediting yourself.
    Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade, sweetheart.

    And yeah, the reason the claim is baseless is because "she is unwilling to share them or they have not come out yet". That's much more feasible than "bitch is lying".

    She has a credibility problem, and you're giving her a voice. Who's being discredited here?

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    What if its a five star establishment?
    Okay that seems more acceptable.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No PHYSICAL force. But perhaps DURESS (the use of force, false imprisonment or threats (and possibly psychological torture or "brainwashing") to compel someone to act contrary to his/her wishes or interests).

    I am merely trying to make the point that it can be considered rape without the use of physical force. Psychological torture or coercion can also make it rape. As for this case I don't know enough of the specifics about what this woman experienced to claim that rape did occur but neither do I know enough right now to just dismiss her claims.
    When you creatively manipulate the acknowledged definitions this way, we're left with any number of possibilities that all undermine the already notoriously difficult process of proving rape in the first place. Taking your view, we could argue that a guy who threatens to dump his girlfriend has raped her, if she gives it up to prevent him from doing so. Or that guilt could be considered as 'psychological torture'. You're really grasping at straws here.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    When you creatively manipulate the acknowledged definitions this way, we're left with any number of possibilities that all undermine the already notoriously difficult process of proving rape in the first place. Taking your view, we could argue that a guy who threatens to dump his girlfriend has raped her, if she gives it up to prevent him from doing so. Or that guilt could be considered as 'psychological torture'. You're really grasping at straws here.
    Since there were no threats, violence or force used, maybe he hypnotized her to stay with him for 3 years and have sex with him against her will. The guy was like Svengali, and she had no control over her own body.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Since there were no threats, violence or force used, maybe he hypnotized her to stay with him for 3 years and have sex with him against her will. The guy was like Svengali, and she had no control over her own body.
    strong the force is upon horny college girls who want to get laid-until they decide the guy wasn't a keeper!



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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If I have to explain to a woman about rape, that would be like a white man having to explain to a black man about racism. But given your profound ignorance and denial on this topic, I may wind up having to.
    False dichotomy.

    Blacks are subject to entrenched racism, expressed as a normative feature of society at every level. Women are not similarly subject to oppression and especially not rape. There's no comparison. It's a profound insult to suggest otherwise.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    False dichotomy.

    Blacks are subject to entrenched racism, expressed as a normative feature of society at every level. Women are not similarly subject to oppression and especially not rape. There's no comparison. It's a profound insult to suggest otherwise.
    blacks engage in racism far more than women engage in rape though



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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    strong the force is upon horny college girls who want to get laid-until they decide the guy wasn't a keeper!
    Yeah and I have a hard time buying that he had any kind of real psychological control over her since they didn't even live together and they didn't have any children together. The psychological and physical control aspects would have more validity if they lived together or had children together IMO.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yeah and I have a hard time buying that he had any kind of real psychological control over her since they didn't even live together and they didn't have any children together. The psychological and physical control aspects would have more validity if they lived together or had children together IMO.
    I wonder how many of these women who scream rape over dubious incidents are doing so are a reaction to being called a slut or similar things? remember that white girl who claimed Kobie Bryant "raped her". No doubt in my mind what happened was her father ripped into her about being banged by a black married man and she then cried rape rather than admitting she wanted to get some NBA star to drill her hard



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