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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If so, then more power to her. Our society NEEDS to break the silence on what is quite possibly its single most underrated social ill.
    that being crying rape when there is none.

    If someone forces you to have sex with them due to a threat or use of physical violence
    that is rape

    If someone drugs you so you cannot resist having sex with them that is rape

    If you are unconscious and someone has sex with you that is rape

    if someone promises to give you something for sex and you accept-that is not rape. It might be prostitution but its not rape

    if someone says they are ending a relationship with you if you don't have sex with them, that is not rape either

    so this woman in the OP was not raped



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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Brilliant retort G, you're in great form today
    What do you want? Should I use a few paragraphs of extraneous words? You're saying that a lack of evidence doesn't disprove a claim, when I'm telling you point-blank that it does.

    You and every other defender of this lying bitch is trying to disprove a negative. Don't make me liken your claims to me claiming that dinosaurs originated from Saturn and flew here in a giant marshmallow, and making you prove me wrong.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Brilliant retort G, you're in great form today
    Not to be a pest, but I'm still wondering what those forms of physical coercion would be.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Good, and I hope those changes go into effect. Anti-woman attitudes such as the ones infesting this thread are the first problems that need to go. And boo-hoo, am I supposed to feel sorry for a rapist? Kind of like the Steubenville, OH and Marysville, MO rapists?
    There are no 'anti-woman' sentiments in this thread.

    Don't conflate anti-feminazism and demand for proof as being anti-woman.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Ending rape on campus
    Student-led activists movement fights to end rape on campus - CNN.com

    Well. I don't know exactly how this makes me feel. I read through the entire article and it is nice to see action. There is a problem and something needs to be done. For that I am happy.

    But one of those incidents does not fit in with the rest. Espinosa's. I don't understand how that is rape? Maybe I misread it. But it just struck me somewhere as...odd. And. Maybe. A little bit off. Everyone else can someone explain that to me?
    Espinosa filed against the university a month after the relationship ended. You link opens with: "Yes, he was her boyfriend. No, he hadn't pinned her down, or threatened violence. But Espinosa insists that he coerced her, psychologically and physically, into having sex against her will for most of their three-year relationship. She resisted, told him no, pushed him away. More often than not, he persisted and she gave in "just to get it over with," she says."

    Did she seek the university's counseling services in those three years? Seek help from anybody? Is she any different than millions of wives who "give in" just so they can "get it over with"? And why should the university be responsible?

    This is a really atypical accusation here, and I wonder if it serves to trivialize the very real problem of drunken date rape that college campuses routinely face.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Not to be a pest, but I'm still wondering what those forms of physical coercion would be.

    "if she doesn't give her a hummer, he won't buy her dinner"?



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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I hate to resort to this but....

    RAPE:
    1-the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
    2-any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.

    Are we actually having the "No really means no" conversation again.
    No, you just wish we were.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    What do you want? Should I use a few paragraphs of extraneous words? You're saying that a lack of evidence doesn't disprove a claim, when I'm telling you point-blank that it does.

    You and every other defender of this lying bitch is trying to disprove a negative. Don't make me liken your claims to me claiming that dinosaurs originated from Saturn and flew here in a giant marshmallow, and making you prove me wrong.
    No, I'm saying that at this point we don't know the details of her claim that she was physically and psychologically coerced either because she is unwilling to share them or they have not come out yet. That does not mean that they don't exist.

    You're behavior is a little over the top given what we know for sure. A whore...really? A pissed off bitch....really? You are discrediting yourself.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    "if she doesn't give her a hummer, he won't buy her dinner"?
    Okay, cheapskate but not rapist! I mean, that's worth at least dinner AND a movie.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, cheapskate but not rapist! I mean, that's worth at least dinner AND a movie.
    What if its a five star establishment?



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