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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    How hard do you think it would be to find his name? So now...in the court of public opinion...he is guilty.
    Actually I haven't been able to find this fellow's name, much less any kind of an official report on what happened.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    By even entertaining this stupid bitch's claims, you're given women carte blanche to systematically tarnish the reputation of any man of their choosing for any reason they can muster up. He cheated? Cry rape. He dumped me? Cry rape. He hit on my sister? Cry rape. We don't need proof now. We just have to lie to a badge, and suddenly he can get raked over the coals and I can garner sympathy from the dimmer members of the population. A little lip quiver, a fake tear or two, and I can destroy any life for the sheer spite of it.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That is very common in abusive relationships.



    Given how little information we have, I'm sure there's more to be had, I just can't find anything.
    I know you quoted me about the abuse aspect but I don't feel like trying to find it out of 100 pages lol. Not everyones abuse situation is the same, and you can't tell someone they must not have experience with domestic violence b/c of their thought process. Truth is not everyone stays and puts up with that crap. She was in college so this wasn't a live in situation or a marriage. She had no fear for her life as she stated he wasn't physical with her. She just sounds like she was weak minded and didn't have enough confidence (and self respect) to leave.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    By even entertaining this stupid bitch's claims, you're given women carte blanche to systematically tarnish the reputation of any man of their choosing for any reason they can muster up. He cheated? Cry rape. He dumped me? Cry rape. He hit on my sister? Cry rape. We don't need proof now. We just have to lie to a badge, and suddenly he can get raked over the coals and I can garner sympathy from the dimmer members of the population. A little lip quiver, a fake tear or two, and I can destroy any life for the sheer spite of it.
    That power or "carte blanche" as you describe it has existed for a long long time already. There doesn't have to be proof, there doesn't have to be anything ---- just her word over his. If it's at work, he will get suspended or fired pending an investigation without pay (unless the guy works for the government). No rape kit no problem. If there's no alibi or the guy lives alone and is a batchelor, the only thing that saves him is the woman saying it was a lie. Otherwise, this could go to the courts, if there's not enough evidence to convict he's still in the papers, he's still booked, his mug shot goes on tons of websites... where's he gonna go to get a new job? Women literally have had the power to ruin a man for any reason by just claiming rape, or sexual assault.

    Edit: What that does is hurt actual rape and sexual assault cases.

    My brother in law was accused at work when he was having problems with a female worker - she made the claim and he was out for 2 weeks without pay until the police were called in and her story changed a few times - she finally confessed she made it up because she hated my brother in law. She was fired and he came back to work but that was only because the police dug into her story and basically told her if she didn't come clean with the truth, she was going to be charged and that scared the hell out of her.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That power or "carte blanche" as you describe it has existed for a long long time already. There doesn't have to be proof, there doesn't have to be anything ---- just her word over his. If it's at work, he will get suspended or fired pending an investigation without pay (unless the guy works for the government). No rape kit no problem. If there's no alibi or the guy lives alone and is a batchelor, the only thing that saves him is the woman saying it was a lie. Otherwise, this could go to the courts, if there's not enough evidence to convict he's still in the papers, he's still booked, his mug shot goes on tons of websites... where's he gonna go to get a new job? Women literally have had the power to ruin a man for any reason by just claiming rape, or sexual assault.

    Edit: What that does is hurt actual rape and sexual assault cases.

    My brother in law was accused at work when he was having problems with a female worker - she made the claim and he was out for 2 weeks without pay until the police were called in and her story changed a few times - she finally confessed she made it up because she hated my brother in law. She was fired and he came back to work but that was only because the police dug into her story and basically told her if she didn't come clean with the truth, she was going to be charged and that scared the hell out of her.
    That's what should have been done, other than him getting pay in arrears along with a huge ass-kissing apology (tack that on there with it). I wish she actually had been charged instead of the idle threat of it.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Actually I haven't been able to find this fellow's name, much less any kind of an official report on what happened.
    Well, I'm sure all of his friends and family would be aware, and word travels.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Ending rape on campus
    Student-led activists movement fights to end rape on campus - CNN.com

    Well. I don't know exactly how this makes me feel. I read through the entire article and it is nice to see action. There is a problem and something needs to be done. For that I am happy.

    But one of those incidents does not fit in with the rest. Espinosa's. I don't understand how that is rape? Maybe I misread it. But it just struck me somewhere as...odd. And. Maybe. A little bit off. Everyone else can someone explain that to me?
    Well, if they just got rid of all the men they'd get rid of the problem. My understanding is that they are well on their way toward doing just that.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I know you quoted me about the abuse aspect but I don't feel like trying to find it out of 100 pages lol. Not everyones abuse situation is the same, and you can't tell someone they must not have experience with domestic violence b/c of their thought process.
    Anyone who assumes that someone who fails to flee from an abusive situation is consenting to abuse lacks the relevant knowledge or experience to understand abusive relationships, period.

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    Truth is not everyone stays and puts up with that crap.
    I never once said everyone does.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, I'm sure all of his friends and family would be aware, and word travels.
    You're welcome to your completely unsubstantiated opinion.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Or of rape. The allegation that women tend to lie about rape is the real lie.

    Besides, maybe someone "asked for it" and thus got their home burned down?
    Are you asking or telling? How do you lie about a burning house?

    You're claiming that women never cry rape. The 'evidence' here being no more substantial than her word. Not good enough for a court of law.

    Holy crap, do you realize what you just said? If one of your friends who has no known history of lying claims to have been the victim of a serious crime, and you have no way of knowing what happened other than his or her description of the situation, would you be more likely to (1) offer comfort and support, or (2) ask tough questions to make sure she or he was really telling the truth? Hint: Only a complete dick would pick #2.
    Only a complete dick would disagree with you. I see.

    How about both options? You claimed that people are guilty until proven innocent. Again, the courts disagree with your insanity.

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