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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Emotional manipulation is coercion. When coercion is used to convince a person to have sex or engage in sexual activities when s/he does not want to do so, this is sexual assault.
    Can you quote or link to the law that states that? I realize rape laws vary by state, but even one states laws that say that would be interesting.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The article does not specify so we do not know. Of course there is also the he said/she said nature, so we probably will never know the absolute truth.
    Since the cops nor the administration officials found anything, I'm going with some sort of retaliation for hurt feelings.

    There is a huge problem with date rape, horrible relationships of all sorts etc. but, this sort of whining, vanity article does nothing to help the matter.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Since the cops nor the administration officials found anything, I'm going with some sort of retaliation for hurt feelings.

    There is a huge problem with date rape, horrible relationships of all sorts etc. but, this sort of whining, vanity article does nothing to help the matter.
    You can guess whatever you want. Guesses made on a lack of information are pretty laughable however.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Ending rape on campus
    Student-led activists movement fights to end rape on campus - CNN.com

    Well. I don't know exactly how this makes me feel. I read through the entire article and it is nice to see action. There is a problem and something needs to be done. For that I am happy.

    But one of those incidents does not fit in with the rest. Espinosa's. I don't understand how that is rape? Maybe I misread it. But it just struck me somewhere as...odd. And. Maybe. A little bit off. Everyone else can someone explain that to me?
    I'm surprised you're so 'calm' about it, frankly.

    Let me see if I've got this right. She's in a relationship with a guy for three years...having sex with him. And after they break up she asserts that he coerced her into it. What a bunch of bull****. Sometimes women embarrass me.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you quote or link to the law that states that? I realize rape laws vary by state, but even one states laws that say that would be interesting.
    There's a part of the Michigan Penal Code I think this covers.

    v. When the actor achieves the sexual contact through concealment or by the element of surprise.
    Michigan Legislature - Section 750.520e

    EDIT: Maybe that doesn't cover it so well. Well I guess I have more searching to do.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    There's a part of the Michigan Penal Code I think this covers.



    Michigan Legislature - Section 750.520e
    I don't read it that way, but it is an interesting and somewhat vague wording so possible. Thank you for finding that.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can guess whatever you want. Guesses made on a lack of information are pretty laughable however.
    You already said there was a lack of info and we'd probably never know the real truth.

    I'm naturally going to go with my own personal experience and with those of people I know.

    Obviously being a woman, you are more apt to believe her.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    There's a part of the Michigan Penal Code I think this covers.



    Michigan Legislature - Section 750.520e

    EDIT: Maybe that doesn't cover it so well. Well I guess I have more searching to do.
    hat's sounds like a load of crap.

    Concealment? surprise? What sort of morons are we dealing with here?

    And this is only a misdemeanor, hardly rape.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You already said there was a lack of info and we'd probably never know the real truth.

    I'm naturally going to go with my own personal experience and with those of people I know.

    Obviously being a woman, you are more apt to believe her.
    The second sentence does not follow the first. Not knowing the truth does not require making uninformed guesses.

    And I do not necessarily believe her. I do not know and am not inclined to speculate, and I am ok with that. My comment was not to suggest that her claim was accurate, but to suggest what part of her claim would be considered rape.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The second sentence does not follow the first. Not knowing the truth does not require making uninformed guesses.

    And I do not necessarily believe her. I do not know and am not inclined to speculate, and I am ok with that. My comment was not to suggest that her claim was accurate, but to suggest what part of her claim would be considered rape.
    This would not follow the 'debate' or 'discussion' reason for this forum.

    Speculation is a big part of that. Speculation based on ones experience in life is a bigger part.

    Hardly an off-handed guess.

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