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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Another significant issue that a friend reading over my shoulder brought up: consider the implications on the young man she dated. My friend is trying to hire a bunch of employees right now for summer work and one thing he does is check Facebook. Like many employers.

    Now consider that this kid's name is attached to hers and now she is in the news. National news, and with the Internet that really just means global. He is now a convicted rapist without a trial. Good job CNN.

    You know as I have gotten older...and the Internet/social media has too...I am starting to realize how bad it actually is.
    That's why I think women who falsely cry rape should be charged with a crime. Even accusations, baseless as they may be, are damaging.

    She should be tried in civil court for slander damages and, then, tried for a felony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Excuse me?? You, sir, just condoned rape. If you are in a relationship, I hope your partner sees this post so that she or he can know to run for the hills and never look back.
    Am I to understand that this woman was in a voluntary relationship for three years with this man, but suddenly he has raped her? I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. Why was this particular incident different from the others? Something else happened...perhaps he indicated he was going to end the relationship, and she was angry, and decided to get even, or she's just throwing out words that make her feel better about herself. I'm sorry, but if she wasn't threatened or coerced, it can hardly be called rape. And I am a woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Am I to understand that this woman was in a voluntary relationship for three years with this man, but suddenly he has raped her? I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. Why was this particular incident different from the others? Something else happened...perhaps he indicated he was going to end the relationship, and she was angry, and decided to get even, or she's just throwing out words that make her feel better about herself. I'm sorry, but if she wasn't threatened or coerced, it can hardly be called rape. And I am a woman.

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    There is clearly documented evidence of people staying in abusive relationships for protracted periods of time. The fact that the average victim of domestic abuse is beaten 35 times prior to their first contact with the authorities should help to put that in perspective. They're not faking it, both the abuse and society's attitude to the abuse does things to the victim's brain. The same is true of rape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    She stayed in the relationship three years. I agree he had no right to impose himself on her. After he did, she should have reported him to the police. If, for whatever reason, she chose not to do that, she had the option to end the relationship. If, for whatever reason, she chose not to do either -- apparently the case -- then she's a victim of both him and her own irresponsibility.
    I am not debating that she would have been better served had she left the relationship but that has ZERO to do with his level of responsibility if in fact more evidence becomes available to validate her claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I am not debating that she would have been better served had she left the relationship but that has ZERO to do with his level of responsibility if in fact more evidence becomes available to validate her claims.
    Indeed, but that's a large "if." The facts as presented here give her just about the weakest case imaginable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Indeed, but that's a large "if." The facts as presented here give her just about the weakest case imaginable.
    There are virtually no facts. None of the direct quotes actually describe what happened, the description is paraphrased by the reporter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    There are virtually no facts. None of the direct quotes actually describe what happened, the description is paraphrased by the reporter.

    That's the only thing keeping me from calling nonsense on her claim: insufficient data.


    But, based on AVAILABLE data, there's a lot of questions to be raised.


    And not forgetting the U investigated and found her claims not substantiated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    That's the only thing keeping me from calling nonsense on her claim: insufficient data.


    But, based on AVAILABLE data, there's a lot of questions to be raised.


    And not forgetting the U investigated and found her claims not substantiated...

    That's pretty much where I'm coming from -- I think it's appropriate to ask questions, I don't think it's appropriate to dismiss her out of hand. Additionally, I'm seeing responses from a number of posters who don't know a whole lot about either rape or domestic abuse.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Indeed, but that's a large "if." The facts as presented here give her just about the weakest case imaginable.
    The facts don't prove his guilt or confirm her accusations. I will leave the distinction of her case as "weak" to you.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    There is clearly documented evidence of people staying in abusive relationships for protracted periods of time. The fact that the average victim of domestic abuse is beaten 35 times prior to their first contact with the authorities should help to put that in perspective. They're not faking it, both the abuse and society's attitude to the abuse does things to the victim's brain. The same is true of rape.
    Perhaps, but the question remains in my mind as to why she stayed in this relationship. She could have left this man years ago, but didn't. Did he provide a roof over her head, food to eat, clothes to wear? I'm sorry, but I think there's more to this than we know. I'm not judging, but a rape charge is not logical in this case. It is, however, very damning to any man so charged, and can well ruin his future. I would be interested in hearing what is finally decided.

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