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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's why I've been looking for details -- not so much because it's a confusing story but because it's light on information.
    there seems to be absolutely none.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I don't recall a nation wide campaign to label a particular man as a slut or making fun of his appearance because he advocated for more access to contraceptives.
    Where is the nation wide campaign to label a woman a slut in this fashion?

    I have heard individuals call women sluts for whatever reason but never a nationwide campaign.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    there seems to be absolutely none.
    I've been puzzled by that. Maybe it's because she filed a complaint with the university rather than following-through with the police, for all I know that means the record of the investigation isn't available to the public.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I quite agree. At what point does she have a responsibility to end a relationship that includes coercion?
    She has a responsibility to herself but it stops there and in noway negates the greater responsibility of the person imposing himself on her.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Because she ( and others here ) are pursueing an agenda and that agenda is based partly on believing any such accusations without credible details.

    The fact is her accusation is serious but her support for the accusation is not.
    Yes her accusation is serious and again, you and others (including myself) may not currently have enough details to determine if it was in fact rape but neither do we have enough details to determine that it wasn't. It's like any other case. You keep an open mind until you have enough details to take a position that is informed by facts rather then your own preconceived ideas about the accused OR the accuser.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Yes her accusation is serious and again, you and others (including myself) may not currently have enough details to determine if it was in fact rape but neither do we have enough details to determine that it wasn't. It's like any other case. You keep an open mind until you have enough details to take a position that is informed by facts rather then your own preconceived ideas about the accused OR the accuser.
    That is what I and others have been saying as opposed to some who claim she is stating the truth without evidence.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I will not be lectured as if I were ignorant thank you. I know perfectly well what informed consent is. That isn't even under question.

    The question is this one person making contradictory statements about physical coercion that do not make sense in context.

    I have not asserted that she is lying, nor have I asserted that she was not raped. I have simply asked how in the hell can there be PHYSICAL coercion as she claimed, when she also asserted he did not pin her or threaten violence (or presumably USE violence), yet asserts there was physical coercion.

    I'm asking for a phrase that she used in a self-contradictory way to be resolved and explained.
    When he bought her chocolates on Valentine's Day, that was coercion if not solicitation for prostitution. When he also gave her a hug, that was battery, and when he kissed er and said "I love you' that was rape.

    This is what feminism has don to our country.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Where is the nation wide campaign to label a woman a slut in this fashion?

    I have heard individuals call women sluts for whatever reason but never a nationwide campaign.
    Sandra Fluke, Rush Limbaugh, post#6 in this thread. Ring a bell?

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Sandra Fluke, Rush Limbaugh, post#6 in this thread. Ring a bell?
    Thats an individual not a nationwide campaign

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    She has a responsibility to herself but it stops there and in noway negates the greater responsibility of the person imposing himself on her.
    She stayed in the relationship three years. I agree he had no right to impose himself on her. After he did, she should have reported him to the police. If, for whatever reason, she chose not to do that, she had the option to end the relationship. If, for whatever reason, she chose not to do either -- apparently the case -- then she's a victim of both him and her own irresponsibility.
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