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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "Yes, he was her boyfriend. No, he hadn't pinned her down, or threatened violence. But Espinosa insists that he coerced her, psychologically and physically, into having sex against her will for most of their three-year relationship."

    Hmmm. I'd buy rape once, maybe even twice. After that she's complicit.

    The rape charge reminds me of the police investigation of Masaryk's death after the Communist takeover in Czechoslovakia in 1948. His body was found on the street bound and gagged after a fall from an upper story window. Police determined the death was a suicide.
    Complicit in her own rape. Well done, you have raised the bar on saying stupid ****.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How do you know better than the victim herself does? Were you there? Did you see what happened? No? Then kindly be quiet and let her talk.
    I'm just going by her own words. She herself says that he never used violence, threats or force, yet he raped her. It's a stunning accusation.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Give us some examples of physical coercion on an adult female that don't involve threats, force or violence.
    An incident that I referred to in an earlier post fits this bill perfectly, but (1) it is way too NSFW to reproduce here, and (2) I do not trust you or anyone else on this thread, except for opendebate and maybe one other, to react appropriately to it.

    Now it's time you establish YOUR credibility and defend YOUR views. I want to see a definition of sexual consent from you.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Complicit in her own rape. Well done, you have raised the bar on saying stupid ****.
    I'll rephrase if you need it spelled out. After the second instance it's no longer rape if she stayed in the relationship voluntarily.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    As I stated no one disagree's with you that no equals no.

    Coercion however is a much more complex word.

    I once had a conversation with someone who insisted and military recruiters coerce people into enlisting in the military. This is an absurd position since a recruiter only sells the military much like a car salesman might try to sell you a car whether it is right for you or not.

    If someone insists that other wise benign actions are coercion then there is no changing their mind. Most reasonble people would have to hear the details to judge whether it was really coercion or not. For example if an employer offers a promotion in exchange for sex is it blackmail? Of course it is. Is it sexual harrassment? Of couse it is.
    I don't disagree at all.

    Is it coercion? Kind of doubtful.
    Yes, kind of doubtful but still possible. You would need more details to make that determination. Again, while unlikely not impossible.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    An incident that I referred to in an earlier post fits this bill perfectly, but (1) it is way too NSFW to reproduce here, and (2) I do not trust you or anyone else on this thread, except for opendebate and maybe one other, to react appropriately to it.

    Now it's time you establish YOUR credibility and defend YOUR views. I want to see a definition of sexual consent from you.
    Good Lord, what incident is that? Please stop playing games. There are ways you can word things.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Ahh, finally some additional voices of reason are starting to show up and call out the blatant misogyny on this thread.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Just as I suspected. You have no explanation either. Lol!
    whatever.
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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'll rephrase if you need it spelled out. After the second instance it's no longer rape.
    Well that is a novel definition of rape...
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Good Lord, what incident is that? Please stop playing games. There are ways you can word things.
    You are out of your mind if you think I am going to divulge ANY info about that. You have not established any credibility, let alone trust, on the matter of rape and sexual assault.
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