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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm not saying it was her fault. I'm saying that it doesn't sound as if she raped but rather had consensual sex with a guy that she now thinks is an ass and wants to call it rape.
    How do you know better than the victim herself does? Were you there? Did you see what happened? No? Then kindly be quiet and let her talk.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You make falsehood after falsehood and then accuse me?! What you say depends on so many things happening in just the right way, particularly that the victim has the nerve to call the police in the first place.
    Nope I am stating facts and yes you are stating falsehoods all over the place.

    fact call the police and accuse someone of domestic violence. They will make an arrest. ( unless the victim is a man )

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    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    There you go again.
    So . . . if your boyfriend says to you, "if you don't give me a blow job, I'm going to leave you" and you do it, but then he leaves you anyway, is that a form of rape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How do you know better than the victim herself does? Were you there? Did you see what happened? No? Then kindly be quiet and let her talk.
    She is not a victim just because she says she is

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    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    But Sandra Fluke like sex! Three or four times per day with different students! And since she's ugly, she just has to rape boys.


    This post is an example of one of the major causes of the problem-the double standard and slut shaming.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How do you know better than the victim herself does? Were you there? Did you see what happened? No? Then kindly be quiet and let her talk.
    Give us some examples of physical coercion on an adult female that don't involve threats, force or violence.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I will not be lectured as if I were ignorant thank you. I know perfectly well what informed consent is. That isn't even under question.
    Then let's hear the definition, if you are so confident about it!

    The question is this one person making contradictory statements about physical coercion that do not make sense in context.

    I have not asserted that she is lying, nor have I asserted that she was not raped. I have simply asked how in the hell can there be PHYSICAL coercion as she claimed, when she also asserted he did not pin her or threaten violence (or presumably USE violence), yet asserts there was physical coercion.

    I'm asking for a phrase that she used in a self-contradictory way to be resolved and explained.
    Why don't you listen to her until she reaches a point where she is comfortable divulging that kind of information? Why would she want to reveal that when she knows she would have to deal with attitudes like yours?
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

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    Ending Rape On Campus[W 228] Okay, folks, settle down. This is getting way too personal in some cases, with wild accusations bordering on personal attacks being thrown around. That stops, now. Be civil. Address the topic, no ad hominem attacks against other posters.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    The schools where I live have Co-ed dormitories, though same sex (at least in theory) floors. The whole sexually liberated concept is only fuel for date rape or acquantiance (sp) rape situations.

    Though these forms of rape will occur with same sex dorms, the amount of opportunities sky rockets if men have constant access to women's rooms. This is especially so as the women dont even have total control of their room: (Gee, why are you in my room? Because your roomate gave me permission and its her room to- Now, scoot over and have a drink...)
    I lived in a dorm like that. We all managed not to rape anyone. Its not that hard.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How do you know better than the victim herself does? Were you there? Did you see what happened? No? Then kindly be quiet and let her talk.
    So, if your wife says she's not in the mood for sex, and you start kissing her neck and rubbing her breasts, is that rape?

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