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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If so, then more power to her. Our society NEEDS to break the silence on what is quite possibly its single most underrated social ill.
    lol, why did you just skip addressing the issue of questioning her allegations, since she made them public?

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    This thread is moving fast, so apologies if I miss your post. That, and I have stuff to take care of later today.
    I'll bet that you think that if a man tells a woman he loves her (or vice versa) but really doesn't and has sex anyway, because that sex occurred on the basis of a lie, then that is a form of rape too.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Why? Why do we have any right to know?
    Because she went public with her story.

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    Have you ever had a rape/sexual assault survivor tell you her story, in detail? I don't mean just bits and pieces, such as "he did X on Y date at Z location. I mean the full story, in every detail she can remember, from start to finish.
    Yes, actually. We're married and have a couple of kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Let me tell you right now, if you are ever trusted enough to hear such an account, and you do hear such an account, then you will never look at sexual assault the same way again.
    Absolutely true.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    actually he has a point on the claims your source makes on false rape allegations:

    <<<Of the 136 cases of sexual assault 8 (5.9%) were coded as false reports, 61 (44.9%) did not proceed to any prosecution or disciplinary action, 48 (35.3%) were referred for prosecution or disciplinary action, and 19 (13.9%) contained insufficient information to be coded>>>

    If you look at the data, very few rape allegations can be determined to be worth prosecuting or determined to be false, with most having an "undecided" factor to them. So when we simply compare the numbers determined as false (5.9%) to those prosecuted (13.9%) and where guilt wasn't even determined yet. The number of false allegations tend to stand out to a much greater degree
    OK, 6% false. That coincides with the less-than-10% figure I gave earlier. Many, many rape victims do not go through with the trial because the odds are often stacked hopelessly against them. Many of those reasons can be seen right here in this thread, all of which boil down to not believing what she has to say.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    She doesn't contradict herself. She says that while she wasn't pinned or threatened, she was physically coerced. That's force.
    Give me some examples please because I honestly cannot think of any reasonable examples of this.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Why? Why do we have any right to know? Have you ever had a rape/sexual assault survivor tell you her story, in detail? I don't mean just bits and pieces, such as "he did X on Y date at Z location. I mean the full story, in every detail she can remember, from start to finish. Let me tell you right now, if you are ever trusted enough to hear such an account, and you do hear such an account, then you will never look at sexual assault the same way again.
    The same emotional plea can be said for any man who'se life has been destroyed by a false accusation.

    Such emotional response proves nothing

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Why? Why do we have any right to know?
    Because she made the issue public and is using it to push for changes to how our culture and society operates. Thus, her allegation, and it's validity, has a direct impact on him and everyone else.

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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll bet that you think that if a man tells a woman he loves her (or vice versa) but really doesn't and has sex anyway, because that sex occurred on the basis of a lie, then that is a form of rape too.
    All that matters is that both parties give informed consent. If one does not, it's rape, period, end of discussion.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well since I'm not "Mr. Akin?" Whoever that is, I guess you must have mistakenly quoted my post.
    He was the GOP Senate nominee who said that "legitimate rape" rarely causes to pregnancy. Come on....that was funny.
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    re: Ending Rape On Campus[W 228]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Because she made the issue public and is using it to push for changes to how our culture and society operates. Thus, her allegation, and it's validity, has a direct impact on him and everyone else.
    Good, and I hope those changes go into effect. Anti-woman attitudes such as the ones infesting this thread are the first problems that need to go. And boo-hoo, am I supposed to feel sorry for a rapist? Kind of like the Steubenville, OH and Marysville, MO rapists?
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