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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    I think you mean the Straight of Hormuz
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    They make some noise, but it is to their economic interest to keep the oil flowing
    Yes, that's the canal I'm referring to. The rest of the world cannot take that chance with those bat-**** crazy people that are running Iran. It is NOT a rational country that publicly executes its own citizens on VERY questionable grounds and repeatedly commits human rights abuses.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, that's the canal I'm referring to. The rest of the world cannot take that chance with those bat-**** crazy people that are running Iran. It is NOT a rational country that publicly executes its own citizens on VERY questionable grounds and repeatedly commits human rights abuses.
    Thing is the ME is all bath**** crazy; so I don't see what singling out Iran accomplishes.

    You got Saudi Arabia - where the 9-11 hijackers came from; and their brand of fundamentalism ( Wahhabism ) Wahhabism - definition of Wahhabism by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    these are the people that exported this 'sect' to Pakistan (Taliban).

    Then look at the cauldron of Syria -all the players there - a lot of Sunni jihadist. Iran is a Shi'a country. Best thing to do is negotitate a detente' like we did with the USSR.

    They are a regional power; just live with them, if not embrace them.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Thing is the ME is all bath**** crazy; so I don't see what singling out Iran accomplishes.

    You got Saudi Arabia - where the 9-11 hijackers came from; and their brand of fundamentalism ( Wahhabism ) Wahhabism - definition of Wahhabism by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    these are the people that exported this 'sect' to Pakistan (Taliban).

    Then look at the cauldron of Syria -all the players there - a lot of Sunni jihadist. Iran is a Shi'a country. Best thing to do is negotitate a detente' like we did with the USSR.

    They are a regional power; just live with them, if not embrace them.
    I don't think those other countries can make the same impact that Iran could. We don't just pay attention to this country to annoy them you know. There ARE reasons for this.

    Don't you remember when Obama extended an "unclenched fist?" It did NOT work because they are insane and think we are infidels. They do not want to work with us, they would rather destroy us if that were possible. They HATE us.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    They HANG people in Iran publicly for "sins" such as homosexuality and drug use, also adultery.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    It's kind of funny because I'm sure President Obama felt exactly the way a lot of you on this thread feel, yet HE learned that there is no negotiating with a country like Iran. If they didn't hate us for one thing, they would just find another reason to hate us because that is what they do.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's kind of funny because I'm sure President Obama felt exactly the way a lot of you on this thread feel, yet HE learned that there is no negotiating with a country like Iran. If they didn't hate us for one thing, they would just find another reason to hate us because that is what they do.
    US/west are still in negotiations with Iran over sanctions/nukes.
    The leadership uses the "great Satan" to drum up hatred for the US. Tehran is a cosmopolitan city (more women's nose jobs in Tehran then even LA).

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    It is a big diverse country -look at it's SIZE on a map - doesn't help to keep hostilities .. if we can find a way towards less tension.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I don't see how we could ever "embrace" a country that commits SO MANY human rights violations in the name of their religion. I could not justify patting them on the back to myself in any way whatsoever.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    It's kind of funny because I'm sure President Obama felt exactly the way a lot of you on this thread feel, yet HE learned that there is no negotiating with a country like Iran. If they didn't hate us for one thing, they would just find another reason to hate us because that is what they do.[/QUOTEUS/west are still in negotiations with Iran over sanctions/nukes.
    The leadership uses the "great Satan" to drum up hatred for the US. Tehran is a cosmopolitan city (more women's nose jobs in Tehran then even LA).

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    It is a big diverse country -look at it's SIZE on a map - doesn't help to keep hostilities .. if we can find a way towards less tension.
    Bull, there are documented cases of human rights abuses, and also Iran is good at "hiding" things from the rest of the world. Just read about some of the atrocities in my post #777. How can you justify that to yourself? I would not want the United States to be "friends" with a country like that, sorry.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    How could we EVER trust a country like Iran? We could never trust them. I'm sure they feel the same way about us. Actually, I'm quite sure they feel that way about pretty much every other country.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Bull, there are documented cases of human rights abuses, and also Iran is good at "hiding" things from the rest of the world. Just read about some of the atrocities in my post #777. How can you justify that to yourself? I would not want the United States to be "friends" with a country like that, sorry.
    we don't have to be "friends" -what good does it do to keep them as strategic enemies? Saudi Arabia (our so called "friend") also hangs drug dealers -they are a FUNDAMENATALIST religious country.
    Yet we have a strategic partnership with them.

    You know what detente' is right? If it was good enough for the USSR , it's good enough for Iran. I don't trust them not to get nukes either (hiding centrifuges) ; but I don't really care.
    Nuclear proliferation is going to happen -Saudi Arabia is looking for new partners, no reason they can't buy nukes from Pakistan ( the biggest proliferator).

    Nukes aren't that big a deal; it's the one weapon that cannot be used. By marginalyzing Iran; it sets up tensions for no reason.
    we have the 6th fleet there - they know they cannot use any strategic weapons - they are training foreign jihadists for Syria.

    If we are ever going to 'solve Syria" we have to be able to talk. Talk is always better then cold wars.

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