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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Amongst other things, boy, is the inference of nukes, as well as the silly assertion that you know the thoughts/beliefs/telos of others.

    You appear as a bit of a daydream johnny.
    Do you boys ever sleep?
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    This is an opinion. There's always the next catastrophe that some second or third world country is about to unleash on us. First it was Iraq and mushroom clouds over an American city. Now it's Iran and EMP attacks. Anything to crank up the idle defense contractors manufacturing. I guess Iran's nuclear capability wasn't gaining enough traction.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This article is, IMO, Neo-con nonsense.

    So the Iranian's are going to park off the coast of New York so that they can launch nuclear weapons at America?

    What on Earth for? To commit suicide?

    Within 15 minutes of a missile blowing up, America will be sending a strike to Iran to wipe it from existence. Iran knows this. So what the frig would they gain from it?

    And please save the 'they just want to destroy America at ANY cost' nonsense...there is NOTHING anyone can say that would make me believe that.


    As for EMP disruptions, similar question...what on Earth for?

    America would quickly determine where it came from and who is responsible and retaliate against Iran on a massive scale...which would probably include massive, political decapitating strikes (like obliterating from existence every Iranian federal government building, major political/religious leader home residence it can find).


    Political leaders - even massively corrupt ones - crave two things more then political power...surviving and more political power.

    Attacking America would end one or both for them EXTREMELY quickly.


    This article is just Neo-con delusion.

    “Iran has demonstrated the capability to launch a missile off a freighter. Iran has also purchased Russia's Club-K missile system. The Club-K is a complete missile launch system, disguised to look like a shipping container, that could convert any freighter into a missile launch platform. The Club-K, if armed with a nuclear warhead, could be used to execute an EMP attack.”

    Dr. Peter Vincent Pry has served: on the Commission on the Strategic Posture of the United States established by the U.S. Congress (2008-2009); as Director of the United States Nuclear Strategy Forum, an advisory body to Congress on policies to counter Weapons of Mass Destruction (2005-2009); on the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack (also commonly known as the EMP Commission), established by the U.S. Congress (2001-2008); as Professional Staff on the House Armed Services Committee of the U.S. Congress, with portfolios in nuclear strategy, WMD, Russia, China, NATO, the Middle East, intelligence, and terrorism (1995-2001); as an Intelligence Officer with the Central Intelligence Agency responsible for analyzing Soviet and Russian nuclear strategy and operational plans (1985-1995).
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    “Iran has demonstrated the capability to launch a missile off a freighter. Iran has also purchased Russia's Club-K missile system. The Club-K is a complete missile launch system, disguised to look like a shipping container, that could convert any freighter into a missile launch platform. The Club-K, if armed with a nuclear warhead, could be used to execute an EMP attack.”

    Dr. Peter Vincent Pry has served: on the Commission on the Strategic Posture of the United States established by the U.S. Congress (2008-2009); as Director of the United States Nuclear Strategy Forum, an advisory body to Congress on policies to counter Weapons of Mass Destruction (2005-2009); on the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack (also commonly known as the EMP Commission), established by the U.S. Congress (2001-2008); as Professional Staff on the House Armed Services Committee of the U.S. Congress, with portfolios in nuclear strategy, WMD, Russia, China, NATO, the Middle East, intelligence, and terrorism (1995-2001); as an Intelligence Officer with the Central Intelligence Agency responsible for analyzing Soviet and Russian nuclear strategy and operational plans (1985-1995).
    Even if Iran were a threat, this ignores, as most patronising Americans do, but not all, the REASON why Iran or any other country for that matter, may wish to attack America.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Even if Iran were a threat, this ignores, as most patronising Americans do, but not all, the REASON why Iran or any other country for that matter, may wish to attack America.

    Why would Iran want to attack the USA? You're kidding, right? They call us the "Great Satan" and you wonder if they like us? Besides, I don't think they'll honestly initiate an attack, only the ruse for bargaining power, over nuclear technology.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_106997.htm
    First of four US Navy ships to support NATO Ballistic Missile Defense arrives in Spain
    Three additional ships of the same class will join the USS Donald Cook over the next two years. Aegis ballistic missile-defence system is permanently based in Europe”
    The USS Donald Cook and her sister ships have advanced sensor capabilities and interceptor missiles which can detect and shoot down ballistic missiles.

    By hosting these ships, Spain is making a vital contribution to NATO Missile Defence, enhancing the security of Europe, the Mediterranean, and the Atlantic Ocean, while shortening the response time for U.S. ships
    I'm not losing any sleep over the Iranian destroyer & helicopter platform

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Even if Iran were a threat, this ignores, as most patronising Americans do, but not all, the REASON why Iran or any other country for that matter, may wish to attack America.
    Examining the reasons why Iran would attack the US if it could get away with it involves taking a critical look at US foreign policy over the past few decades. No one is allowed to criticize US foreign policy without being labeled an America hating liberal.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Why would Iran want to attack the USA? You're kidding, right? They call us the "Great Satan" and you wonder if they like us? Besides, I don't think they'll honestly initiate an attack, only the ruse for bargaining power, over nuclear technology.
    Who said he wondered if they like us? You're kidding right?? They hate us, to them we are the great satan, and for good reason, too!!
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Examining the reasons why Iran would attack the US if it could get away with it involves taking a critical look at US foreign policy over the past few decades. No one is allowed to criticize US foreign policy without being labeled an America hating liberal.
    I heard that, literally!! See, and you also bring out the very good point "if it could get away with it" acting alone, Iran WILL NOT be doing that. And you can cash that check, it will clear. But if Iran did, it would be likely that they are working with China and Russia, both of which have demonstrated recently that they are finished with the US's imperialism. they shut us down on Syria! (Which I hold as a good think, if unfortunate)
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    The reason cops who kill people either kids or adults are given paid time off is for the most part due to the police unions that have made it close to impossible to fire dirty cops.
    It's not just police unions and cover-up "internal investigations," you also have to factor in the dirty judges, DAs, and juries.

    Not really police state material there.
    Yes it is. Go check out the unconstitutional checkpoints in Tennessee. I can list numerous examples.

    Tennessee to roll out "No Refusal" blood-draw DUI checkpoints for Labor Day | Police State USA

    But don't get me wrong I do feel that this country is headed in that direction. You just need a better example than out of control unions.
    We're already there. Just because APCs aren't rolling around on every street in America (and certain towns already have these) doesn't discount the authoritative state we're living in.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I heard that, literally!! See, and you also bring out the very good point "if it could get away with it" acting alone, Iran WILL NOT be doing that. And you can cash that check, it will clear. But if Iran did, it would be likely that they are working with China and Russia, both of which have demonstrated recently that they are finished with the US's imperialism. they shut us down on Syria! (Which I hold as a good think, if unfortunate)
    Given the backing of China and/or Russia, it is conceivable that Iran could launch an attack, at least a limited one on the US. What would follow would be a "peace talk", a "negotiation", a "settlement" followed by an attack by the warhawks in the US on whoever happened to be the CIC at the time, and, most likely, his loss in the next election. The next presidential candidate would have to promise to take a firm stand to protect us from "terrorism". After that, not much would change.
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