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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    They're not stupid, but they are unpredictable and delusional. If they thought they could anonymously detonate an EMP over our population, without retaliation they might try it. I now think, they're pushing this scenario by plausibility alone, to strengthen their hand in nuke negotiations with the State Department against Israel. Just the threat of an EMP is enough to freak out civilian leadership, because of the enormous financial and economic damage it would cause.
    You could be right. I don't pretend to have special insight into the minds or motives of Iranian leaders. But, it has been my observation, that destruction waged by fanatical terrorists is always for a purpose--to retaliate or to send a message/warning or some other kind of demonstration. Thus they don't do it anonymously. It serves no good purpose if they don't get credit (and recognition/admiration) for it. And since Iran could not possibly believe they could take out our military with a single blow, and that such an act would likely result in swift retaliation--though with our current fearless leader in the White House who knows about that?--so. . . .

    . . . my best guess is they hope that such an attack would trigger a shooting war, hopefully with Russia and maybe even China. What better way could they find to hurt us the most?
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I want to apologize to others for minimizing their notions that Iran's boats posed, no threat. After reading this article, I believe I could've been off.

    This ain't good if our gov allows them to knock out, half the eastern seaboard, with a nuclear-EMP. I'm sure our response, would be to turn Iran into a parking lot, which may set off other reactions.



    Expert: Iran ships a dry run for later nuclear/EMP attack; humiliate Obama | WashingtonExaminer.com
    This is an opinion. There's always the next catastrophe that some second or third world country is about to unleash on us. First it was Iraq and mushroom clouds over an American city. Now it's Iran and EMP attacks. Anything to crank up the idle defense contractors manufacturing. I guess Iran's nuclear capability wasn't gaining enough traction.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I want to apologize to others for minimizing their notions that Iran's boats posed, no threat. After reading this article, I believe I could've been off.

    This ain't good if our gov allows them to knock out, half the eastern seaboard, with a nuclear-EMP. I'm sure our response, would be to turn Iran into a parking lot, which may set off other reactions.



    Expert: Iran ships a dry run for later nuclear/EMP attack; humiliate Obama | WashingtonExaminer.com
    This article is, IMO, Neo-con nonsense.

    So the Iranian's are going to park off the coast of New York so that they can launch nuclear weapons at America?

    What on Earth for? To commit suicide?

    Within 15 minutes of a missile blowing up, America will be sending a strike to Iran to wipe it from existence. Iran knows this. So what the frig would they gain from it?

    And please save the 'they just want to destroy America at ANY cost' nonsense...there is NOTHING anyone can say that would make me believe that.


    As for EMP disruptions, similar question...what on Earth for?

    America would quickly determine where it came from and who is responsible and retaliate against Iran on a massive scale...which would probably include massive, political decapitating strikes (like obliterating from existence every Iranian federal government building, major political/religious leader home residence it can find).


    Political leaders - even massively corrupt ones - crave two things more then political power...surviving and more political power.

    Attacking America would end one or both for them EXTREMELY quickly.


    This article is just Neo-con delusion.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Btw - does anyone actually know how close this Iranian small frigate and it's support ship actually got to America?

    The original article was written when they were apparently just coming around South Africa.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This article is, IMO, Neo-con nonsense.

    So the Iranian's are going to park off the coast of New York so that they can launch nuclear weapons at America?

    What on Earth for? To commit suicide?

    Within 15 minutes of a missile blowing up, America will be sending a strike to Iran to wipe it from existence. Iran knows this. So what the frig would they gain from it?

    And please save the 'they just want to destroy America at ANY cost' nonsense...there is NOTHING anyone can say that would make me believe that.


    As for EMP disruptions, similar question...what on Earth for?

    America would quickly determine where it came from and who is responsible and retaliate against Iran on a massive scale...which would probably include massive, political decapitating strikes (like obliterating from existence every Iranian federal government building, major political/religious leader home residence it can find).


    Political leaders - even massively corrupt ones - crave two things more then political power...surviving and more political power.

    Attacking America would end one or both for them EXTREMELY quickly.


    This article is just Neo-con delusion.
    You make inferences beyond the scope of the article. Whats that like?

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You make inferences beyond the scope of the article. Whats that like?
    What on Earth are you talking about?

    From the article:

    'Yes, patrols by the Iranian Navy off our coasts could pose threat of a surprise EMP attack, said Pry, who with others such as former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, has convinced several state legislatures to take moves to harden their electric and energy grids from EMP attack because Washington won't.

    Pry said the ships are probably conducting a test for a future visit from an Iranian freighter that would launch the attack.

    I think the Iranian Navy patrols off our coasts may be intended to lull us into complacency, to get the U.S. Navy accustomed to an Iranian naval presence in our hemisphere, so eventually they could contribute to 'Zero Hour' and the great day when the Mullahs decide to drop the nuclear hammer on America, said Pry, who staffed a former congressional EMP commission.


    The article commented about nuclear and EMP attacks.

    Plus it's title is:'Expert: Iran ships a dry run for later nuclear/EMP attack'


    My 'inferences' are EXACTLY what the article was talking about.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    What on Earth are you talking about?

    From the article:

    '“Yes, patrols by the Iranian Navy off our coasts could pose threat of a surprise EMP attack,” said Pry, who with others such as former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, has convinced several state legislatures to take moves to harden their electric and energy grids from EMP attack because Washington won't.

    Pry said the ships are probably conducting a test for a future visit from an Iranian freighter that would launch the attack.

    I think the Iranian Navy patrols off our coasts may be intended to lull us into complacency, to get the U.S. Navy accustomed to an Iranian naval presence in our hemisphere, so eventually they could contribute to 'Zero Hour' and the great day when the Mullahs decide to drop the nuclear hammer on America,” said Pry, who staffed a former congressional EMP commission.


    The article commented about nuclear and EMP attacks.

    Plus it's title is:'Expert: Iran ships a dry run for later nuclear/EMP attack'


    My 'inferences' are EXACTLY what the article was talking about.
    Amongst other things, boy, is the inference of nukes, as well as the silly assertion that you know the thoughts/beliefs/telos of others.

    You appear as a bit of a daydream johnny.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Amongst other things, boy, is the inference of nukes, as well as the silly assertion that you know the thoughts/beliefs/telos of others.

    You appear as a bit of a daydream johnny.
    Lol...whatever pal.

    I am not wasting any more time on you over this...think whatever you wish.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    This article is, IMO, Neo-con nonsense.

    So the Iranian's are going to park off the coast of New York so that they can launch nuclear weapons at America?

    What on Earth for? To commit suicide?

    Within 15 minutes of a missile blowing up, America will be sending a strike to Iran to wipe it from existence. Iran knows this. So what the frig would they gain from it?

    And please save the 'they just want to destroy America at ANY cost' nonsense...there is NOTHING anyone can say that would make me believe that.


    As for EMP disruptions, similar question...what on Earth for?

    America would quickly determine where it came from and who is responsible and retaliate against Iran on a massive scale...which would probably include massive, political decapitating strikes (like obliterating from existence every Iranian federal government building, major political/religious leader home residence it can find).


    Political leaders - even massively corrupt ones - crave two things more then political power...surviving and more political power.

    Attacking America would end one or both for them EXTREMELY quickly.


    This article is just Neo-con delusion.
    I'm not sure why this needs to be explained.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Johnson View Post
    Really? Provide examples.



    Give examples on why "Murica!" should bomb Iran to pieces. Give justifications and statistics as to why our state sanctioned killers should remain in the Middle East. Please explain why "law enforcement" officers here in the U.S. are allowed paid time off after murdering children.

    Don't preach to me about political talking pap.
    The reason cops who kill people either kids or adults are given paid time off is for the most part due to the police unions that have made it close to impossible to fire dirty cops. Not really police state material there. But don't get me wrong I do feel that this country is headed in that direction. You just need a better example than out of control unions.

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