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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Is Rick Santorum running for office? Regardless if he was, that is why WE have a constitution and procedures that must be followed.

    I don't see what that has to do with Iran sending warships though.
    Hahahahahahahahahaha a constitution and procedures that must be followed!! Your a hoot, funny too.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, you are ignoring the fact that we have a Constitution. This is why we cannot let any of our politicians ignore or "rewrite" the Constitution. This is just ONE reason why many of us take the Constitution (and the 2nd amendment in particular since it is ALWAYS under attack) very, very seriously.
    Yes, but you think politicians take the constitution very seriously, that's the funny part. To them, it's just a god damn piece of paper to get in the way. (With very few exceptions)
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I see. Nobody should ever use the word never then. Don't let me catch you saying something will never happen down the road now!
    I really despise these types of posts that I take time to come look at, and then it says something like THIS.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hahahahahahahahahaha a constitution and procedures that must be followed!! Your a hoot, funny too.
    Do you have anything at all to add to the discussion. I mean . . . something intelligent? If not, I am asking you kindly not to quote me anymore.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I confess that I have not read this thread and have no clue what anybody else has said.

    But my first instinct is that would it be a really bad thing if Iran actually fired a shell or something--poorly aimed of course--onto U.S. soil. That would give us full right, righteous justification, and reason to:

    1. Destroy or confiscate the ship.
    2. Take out Iran's nuclear capability.

    But does anybody really think Iran is dumb enough to do that?
    Greetings, AlbuOwl.

    No, but there are those who might like us to believe they are! Iran is no match for us in military might, and they know it! I understand that we have subs patrolling the international waters near Iran, and if there are Iranian subs patrolling in international waters near the US, what's the difference? We are both sovereign countries! In addition, Iran has Russia's backing...is someone trying to provoke international war for some reason, assuming that any of this is true? Very suspicious....

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, AlbuOwl.

    No, but there are those who might like us to believe they are! Iran is no match for us in military might, and they know it! I understand that we have subs patrolling the international waters near Iran, and if there are Iranian subs patrolling in international waters near the US, what's the difference? We are both sovereign countries! In addition, Iran has Russia's backing...is someone trying to provoke international war for some reason, assuming that any of this is true? Very suspicious....
    I don't think anybody is trying to provoke a shooting war. But I do perceive that the world leaders rightly perceive us as a weakened nation and some will do whatever they think is effective to further undermine our image and/or credibility for whatever reasons they might have to do that. And certainly trying to provoke us into doing some dumb re an Iranian warship hovering in international waters just off our coast might be intentional. Or it might be propaganda to shore up their image with their own people. Who knows?
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't think anybody is trying to provoke a shooting war. But I do perceive that the world leaders rightly perceive us as a weakened nation and some will do whatever they think is effective to further undermine our image and/or credibility for whatever reasons they might have to do that. And certainly trying to provoke us into doing some dumb re an Iranian warship hovering in international waters just off our coast might be intentional. Or it might be propaganda to shore up their image with their own people. Who knows?
    They have pointedly stated that it is in response to the US positioning ships in the Persian gulf in proximity to them. It really isn't a big story. Iran won't be using those ships to attack the US mainland, though the US using our ships near them is a far mor likely scenario. As to the US being weakened, I suppose you speak to the fact that we didn't attack Syria last summer? There was no shortage of might in Libya.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders[W:623]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't think anybody is trying to provoke a shooting war. But I do perceive that the world leaders rightly perceive us as a weakened nation and some will do whatever they think is effective to further undermine our image and/or credibility for whatever reasons they might have to do that. And certainly trying to provoke us into doing some dumb re an Iranian warship hovering in international waters just off our coast might be intentional. Or it might be propaganda to shore up their image with their own people. Who knows?
    I don't think our ability to show restraint is a sign of weakness.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, but you think politicians take the constitution very seriously, that's the funny part. To them, it's just a god damn piece of paper to get in the way. (With very few exceptions)
    I did not say that. I said that is the reason that WE need to make sure that they do.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I did not say that. I said that is the reason that WE need to make sure that they do.
    Well on that we would agree. Problem is that partisans won't hear of it!
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