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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Are you seriously sticking up for Iran? Do you know what kind of things they do over there to their OWN citizens? Yet, you think that "we" are the bad guys? Good Lord! What's wrong with you? Our young people defending a regime like Iran is quite disturbing.
    With our emerging police state and political warmongers in public office, US and Iran are one in the same. And that's just presuming you're not getting your "facts" from Faux Newbs or something.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't know about anyone else, but I tire of Iran's threats.
    So take a nap.

    Seriously, what are you proposing we do about empty threats?

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    So take a nap.

    Seriously, what are you proposing we do about empty threats?
    Get up and get introspective about it.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    So take a nap.

    Seriously, what are you proposing we do about empty threats?
    I don't know, try to solve some problems. From where I stand, I see the main problem as being Israel. I do support Israel because they are in a strategic location, they are expert intelligence gatherers (which I'm sure benefits the US), and if SHTF, they would back us up. Israel is a powerful ally, no doubt about it.

    However, I can see that pretty much the entire ME is still carrying a grudge against Israel claiming ownership of land in the ME (except it was mostly the French and British who were responsible for "partitioning" the land and calling it Israel. Israel feels as if they have a right to the land because they were ousted from it thousands of years ago, which I will admit, is a bit ridiculous. However, what's done is done, and Israel is NOT going anywhere. They are a well-established country now, and I think it's about time that the countries around them grow up and accept that and try to work with Israel instead of against them.

    I can understand how the Palestinians feel upset about "state of Israel" as they lay claim to the land as well. However, the palestinians never really had a home land. They were kind of ousted by all of the other countries in the ME and not very liked either. They were more like "nomad" types. When Israelites took over the land, they made it what it is today. Before that, it was nothing but a barren wasteland with nomads wandering around.

    I will admit though that Israel is pushing the buttons of the Palestinians with the encroachment on the land that is now Palestine. The whole situation over there is just so mucked up, and there is so much hatred, that there is NEVER going to be an easy solution.

    The bottom line is main reason for their hatred of us is our support of Israel. So I guess we could just abandon the country of Israel and leave them to the wolves, by they ARE a valuable ally and PEOPLE live there.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Johnson View Post
    With our emerging police state and political warmongers in public office, US and Iran are one in the same. And that's just presuming you're not getting your "facts" from Faux Newbs or something.
    That is an extremely extremist position. Not many people would agree with you, including myself.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    So take a nap.

    Seriously, what are you proposing we do about empty threats?
    Maybe we could humor them, and make this into an opportunity to try to get somewhere with them.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Don't you think that "ignoring" them, is going to make them even more agitated. I think we should treat them like children and say, "now, now little Iran, I know something is bothering you, let's talk about it."

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Maybe we could humor them, and make this into an opportunity to try to get somewhere with them.
    Wow, it appears your thinking has evolved past calling them evil. Kudos.

    I'd say it beats running around like the sky is falling. It's the publicity that these moves generate amongst the timid that fuels them.

    Today's USA Today story appeals to the worse sort of outdated foolishness. John Bolton, last of the Cold Warriors, has some fear-mongering for us. <Link>

    Iran could "someday" have ship-launched ICBMs, making these boats super dangerous.

    I predict our unicorn air force will be more than a match for that, when the time comes.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is an extremely extremist position.
    Redundant.

    Not many people would agree with you, including myself.
    It doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees with me.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Johnson View Post
    With our emerging police state and political warmongers in public office, US and Iran are one in the same. And that's just presuming you're not getting your "facts" from Faux Newbs or something.
    I think it is safe to say that most if not all people in here gather their news from multiple sourcing...As for our 'emerging police state', and 'political warmongers', can you give examples of how the US, and Iran are "one in the same" with examples, and not just political talking point pap from the isolationist wing...?
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