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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The Iranian government is hateful toward the US and its allies, no question. The Iranian people, at least the ones I've been able to hear, don't hate the US despite their government lining up school children to chant "death to the USA" and other delightful slogans.

    There are valid historical reasons why the government hates the US, or more specifically, our government. We could ignore history and just scratch our heads wondering why the Ayatollas that are the real power in that unfortunate country hate us so much, but our understanding of the enemy would be much better if we did take an objective look at history. Moreover, were we to do that, we'd be less likely to repeat that history.

    Meanwhile, the Iranian people are subjected to an authoritarian and despotic theocracy, and there really isn't much we can do about it.
    True, but more diplomatic approaches have been tried and have failed. They are like incorrigible little children who don't respond to anything but a spanking.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This is not a one-way street. You talk as if they are not a thorn in the side of the international community. They do this intentionally.
    "They do this" what? Try to say something specific. What has Iran done that justifies the way we've treated them? There are absolutely nations that treat their people worse that we support, so that doesn't fly on it's own.


    Lol, we haven't had an embassy there since 1979. Didn't Obama "extend his hand in peace" anyway? How'd THAT work out? You cannot deal in a rational manner with a country that is run by irrational religious extremists.
    You repeat irrational like a mantra, but I haven't seen worthwhile examples. All religion is irrational. What irrational act has Iran performed?

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    "They do this" what? Try to say something specific. What has Iran done that justifies the way we've treated them? There are absolutely nations that treat their people worse that we support, so that doesn't fly on it's own.




    You repeat irrational like a mantra, but I haven't seen worthwhile examples. All religion is irrational. What irrational act has Iran performed?
    You don't know? They threaten to close down the canal (Strait of whatever it's called). THAT is a legitimate threat to not only our interests but a large portion of the world. They are constantly making threats to do this or that. They have a nuclear program, and they limit UN inspectors access to large portions. They refuse to recognize Israel. Israel is a country full of people too you know! These are just some things.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Rusty or not, they are mobile platforms for some pretty dangerous weapons. We have better-but thats not point.
    This is dangerous? It might sink itself if one of those antiquated weapons fired. One Apache gunship, with it's 30mm M230 chain gun could mow this relic down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I like it. We could put Israeli markings on the planes before they are dropped to really screw with them.
    Better yet let the Israeli's carry out the mission.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Poor buggers. Send 'em some chocolate bars, brah. Cheer 'em up a bit.
    Pull the old gag routine, where you offer them a chocolate bar in one hand and soon as they take it, slap them with the other hand. It's pretty much what the State Department has been doing to them all along.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I don't think Obama wants conflict with Iran and Iran would be stupid to start something. I not concerned exceot maybe the crew of the Iranian ships getting lost, running out of fuel and running out of food. It honestly would not surprise me if they did make it over to this part of the world, somebody would have to give them assistance, food supplies and help getting back to Iran.
    They may end up on Gilligan's Island.

    I'm sure the Cubans or Russian subs would gladly supply them.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Additionally, Iran is not sending 'warships'.

    They are ending one small frigate (not a destroyer) and one support ship that has space for a helicopter(s) to land on it.

    The media almost never gets military reports right.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You don't know? They threaten to close down the canal (Strait of whatever it's called). THAT is a legitimate threat to not only our interests but a large portion of the world. They are constantly making threats to do this or that. They have a nuclear program, and they limit UN inspectors access to large portions. They refuse to recognize Israel. Israel is a country full of people too you know! These are just some things.
    How much access do UN inspectors have to our nuclear program?

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

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    Look at that heap of ****. I could take it out myself, with my bare hands.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Pull the old gag routine, where you offer them a chocolate bar in one hand and soon as they take it, slap them with the other hand. It's pretty much what the State Department has been doing to them all along.
    Truth.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    You're delusional. You always have been. You're a prime example of why this country needs to invest in better mental health care for it's elderly.

    11B Infantry, 95B Military Police. Middle East three times, Africa once, Central America twice.

    Try again.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

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    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
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    Look at that heap of ****. I could take it out myself, with my bare hands.


    Truth.
    Seriously, some scuba gear, an electric can opener and a wad of C4, and it's an artificial reef.


    Something strange is happening over there. Iran must be anticipating an air attack or have intelligence the American public hasn't been made aware.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian...medium=twitter

    Iranian state TV on Friday ran a documentary featuring a computerized video of Iran’s drones and missiles bombing Tel Aviv, Haifa, Ben Gurion Airport and the Dimona nuclear reactor in a hypothetical retaliation for an Israeli or American strike on the Islamic Republic.

    Iranian drones and missiles are also shown carrying out simulated strikes on the American aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, downing American aircraft and striking American military targets in the Persian Gulf.

    The clip was broadcast amid a clear escalation of anti-American rhetoric and even action by Iran: On Saturday, an Iranian admiral announced that Iran had despatched warships to the North Atlantic, while Iran’s spiritual leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei denounced the Americans as liars who, while professing to be friends of Iran, would bring down his regime if they could. He also said it was “amusing” that the US thought Iran would reduce its “defensive capabilities.”
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Additionally, Iran is not sending 'warships'.

    They are ending one small frigate (not a destroyer) and one support ship that has space for a helicopter(s) to land on it.

    The media almost never gets military reports right.
    The truth isn't interesting enough.

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