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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because Iran is building their own nukes?
    did we go to war with russia because they had nukes?

    Iran having nukes would put them on par with Israel, and Israel's nukes have kept its enemies at bay.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    One war at a time.
    why did you not advocate that while we were in afghanistan?
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    To create a decisive victory, in a year, or two, such brutality would have been necessary that the Libbos would have gone ****ing nuts.

    You want very pinpointed, surgical strikes that insure minimal collateral damage? That takes time.

    First of all, decisive victory, in my opinion, is impossible in such wars. My logic is that a war that has become the longest running in our history is to long. Granted, That's not all bush's fault, but It was during his tenure that Afghanistan turned into a stalemated war of attrition.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    First of all, decisive victory, in my opinion, is impossible in such wars. My logic is that a war that has become the longest running in our history is to long. Granted, That's not all bush's fault, but It was during his tenure that Afghanistan turned into a stalemated war of attrition.
    Of course you're going to say that. It's been a Libbo talking point since 2001.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    did we go to war with russia because they had nukes?

    Iran having nukes would put them on par with Israel, and Israel's nukes have kept its enemies at bay.
    If Iran gets nukes, Saudi Arabia said they will do the same, and so on. Before long we would have Israel, Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, and India (and possibly others) all with Nukes pointing at each other. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. All it would take is one religious fanatic to come to power, and BOOM.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    wait what? are you Saying iran was our enemy after 9/11? Iran offered us Aid after 9/11? Iran has no allegiance to al Qaeda , they hate al Qaeda as enemys.
    The links between Iran and Hezbollah is well documented so we know they at least work with internationally known terrorist organizations. Iran publicly denouncing al Qaeda and in the backroom working with them... is that a giant leap? Certainly you're right, it's not a fact with evidence to corroborate it but if al Qaeda can do something that Iran needs and can have deniability - why not? I use "al Qaeda" in the broadest sense - any and all affiliates not just the dozen people protecting al Zawahiri.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course you're going to say that. It's been a Libbo talking point since 2001.
    how does one win a war against Terror itself?
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    why did you not advocate that while we were in afghanistan?
    I called the White House to suggest that Iran be the next target, after AG and Iraq, but for some reason, they didn't return my calls.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    how does one win a war against Terror itself?
    The same way you win a war on Nazism. You kill all the terrorists.

    One thing's for sure, your negative, defeatist attitude isn't going to win crap.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course you're going to say that. It's been a Libbo talking point since 2001.
    I have Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam to back up my opinion that decisive victory against enemies that practice guerrilla warfare to such extent is next to impossible. The Persian Gulf War is the kind I prefer, Short, Sweet, to the point, and we leave with the country intact enough to not descend into chaos. Just enough to keep them in check for some time, no need for total victory.

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