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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    If Obama is flinching, why the hell are the Iranian at the negotiation table for the first time ever? Iran is just trying to look tough for the cameras, so the leaders can keep support. Obama knows that, and the Iranians know that we could destroy their "fleet" with extreme ease. They aren't stupid. Its just a political move.
    First time ever? Your kidding.....Right?

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

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    Does anyone else think this is not a great idea? Sort of like waving red meat in front of a pit-bull.
    Reminds me of the undeclared low scale naval war we had with Libya back in the 80's.

    They lost 4 aircraft and several small patrol craft.

    We lost the missiles we used on those same targets. As I recall the aircraft were shot down with sidewinders and the boats with harpoon missiles, both of which are relatively cheap compared to other missiles. The whole thing provided great fodder for comedians here in the states such as David Letterman and his top ten list.

    Obviously we can keep careful tabs on these Iranian " ships " with no problem they are no threat but do not ignore them.

    The bigger question is what does this say about their government. The act seems irrational. This would imply their government is as well. I suppose it is possible that they have some point they are trying to make or some plan which this act is a diversion for but none of that seems likely.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    If the Navy were concerned about it, they would send a flotilla out to escort them.
    The Navy can't just deploy without orders.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The strength that President Bush showed...Why can't the left see that?
    All Bush did is embroil us in two wars that we would have to withdraw from eventually. We cant be the worlds babysitter, and now that Obama is doing the withdrawing part, they are going right back to what they were doing. Its a viscous cycle that cant be stopped.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    I don't think we should stay past 2014 anyways, so screw Karzai. We can watch as he is removed from power a few years after we leave. By staying, we are just delaying the unavoidable.
    Oh, it won't take a few years. Karzai will have to bail asap once we pull out.....as the Taliban is going to kill him. Just like they did his Drug-lord brother. A fitting end to the lil backstabbing puke.

    Would hope they propagandize his ass in front of the ALL seeing eye.....as they Lop that Pimps head Right off his shoulders.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Reminds me of the undeclared low scale naval war we had with Libya back in the 80's.

    They lost 4 aircraft and several small patrol craft.

    We lost the missiles we used on those same targets. As I recall the aircraft were shot down with sidewinders and the boats with harpoon missiles, both of which are relatively cheap compared to other missiles. The whole thing provided great fodder for comedians here in the states such as David Letterman and his top ten list.

    Obviously we can keep careful tabs on these Iranian " ships " with no problem they are no threat but do not ignore them.

    The bigger question is what does this say about their government. The act seems irrational. This would imply their government is as well. I suppose it is possible that they have some point they are trying to make or some plan which this act is a diversion for but none of that seems likely.
    Its seems perfectly rational to me. A majority of the Iranian populace dislikes America, so give the demographic something to be proud about while negotiations continue. Its a political move with a political motive.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The strength that President Bush showed...Why can't the left see that?
    They see it and know it-but they can't admit or respect it.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    If Obama is flinching, why the hell are the Iranian at the negotiation table for the first time ever? Iran is just trying to look tough for the cameras, so the leaders can keep support. Obama knows that, and the Iranians know that we could destroy their "fleet" with extreme ease. They aren't stupid. Its just a political move.
    It is just a political move-those talks are a stall tactic while they finish their nukes. I really wish the left would be honest and admit they dont care if Iran gets nukes.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh, it won't take a few years. Karzai will have to bail asap once we pull out.....as the Taliban is going to kill him. Just like they did his Drug-lord brother. A fitting end to the lil backstabbing puke.

    Would hope they propagandize his ass in front of the ALL seeing eye.....as they Lop that Pimps head Right off his shoulders.
    I would beg to differ. We give him a lot of aid, he could use his American toys to hold them off for some time. But a short amount of time it will be. It will be like what is going on in Iraq now.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The strength that President Bush showed...Why can't the left see that?
    Because Libbos hate America and think we need to punished. They are willing to absorb a few thousand American casualties in the interest of fairness.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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