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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    9/11 and 13 Benghazi like incidents occurred during the Bush era. Some people are just short on respect, no matter the President.
    Speak for yourself. I have all the respect in the world for President Bush and I believe history will prove me right.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    The irony is, if we take a death toll tally, I do believe the U.S. would be at the top of the leader board. I firmly believe those on the receiving end of the US stick view us every bit as much of a terrorist as we view them. And they have a lot more bodies to make their case with than we do. It's all a matter of perspective, I suppose. By definition, terrorism being not state sponsored or actions of a recognized military, we have the argument won by definition. But if we were to describe terrorist as "one who inflicts terror," the U.S. definitely scares the hell out of them more than they scare us.
    Its not simply a body count-its about why those bodies are there.

    Some of us think its fine bombing civilians and funding terrorists, others dont. Theres a difference, even if you dont think there is.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    An American court determined that Iran is responsible for the Khobar Towers Bombing.

    I never said Iran is sending ships to attack us, but it's definitely a probe to test our response.
    And a propaganda stunt so these thugs can tell their people that we have no balls.

    Appeasement never works in this region, they only respect strength.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat152 View Post
    This is just an example hollow saber-rattling that Iran's leaders are engaging in in order to look tough on America, its no coincidence they are doing this right after a preliminary deal with the US. People seem to forget that we placed and kept a ruthless dictator in power in Iran for years, much of the Iranian populace is still angry at us for that. From a unbiased point of view, we do seem to have a compulsive need to meddle in the Middle East (a lot of it unwarranted, I may add. Such as Iraq), but Iran is different, in my opinion. If Iran made Nukes, that would upset the delicate balance of power in the region, and potentially create a mini- nuclear arms race in the Middle East, which would NOT be good in such a volatile region. To get back to the point, Iran's Leaders need to look like they are staring us down if they are to keep popular support, and continue negotiations. It would be best to let their pitiful excuse of a fleet sail around a bit and go home to be congratulated for their "daring actions".
    They are staring Obama down....Why can't you see that? They have no fear of the man
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    And a propaganda stunt so these thugs can tell their people that we have no balls.

    Appeasement never works in this region, they only respect strength.
    The strength that President Bush showed...Why can't the left see that?
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Unless they landed in New York City.

    If they landed in San Francisco, the city would probably call for a national holiday as soon as they surrendered and lowered the Stars and Stripes.
    Possibly, at least San Fran the way that city votes and seems to think. The rest of the nation though wouldn't stand for it, we may hate each other's positions at times but it's like a family, we keep our own in check but will spill blood to defend them when it counts.
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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's pretty simple, they are testing the depth of our president's weakness, but even he and the morons he appointed would have to deal with the Iranians if they attempt to breach our waters, our own people will deal with them if they tried to land on our shores and then the politicians responsible would be held accountable for any losses, and they know it.

    It doesn't help that Karzai has more than likely given the Iranians a list of our How to's. As well as our locations out. Then they can see how Karzai has played Obama over signing a piece of paper in order to keep us around and receive more of our money and aid. Don't look good when we say you had better sign or we pull out. All of it. Then repeat that now for a 4th time.

    As in cmon now we aren't kidding we will take our ball and go home. While Karzai laughs and plays pimp.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They are staring Obama down....Why can't you see that? They have no fear of the man
    If Obama is flinching, why the hell are the Iranian at the negotiation table for the first time ever? Iran is just trying to look tough for the cameras, so the leaders can keep support. Obama knows that, and the Iranians know that we could destroy their "fleet" with extreme ease. They aren't stupid. Its just a political move.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It doesn't help that Karzai has more than likely given the Iranians a list of our How to's. As well as our locations out. Then they can see how Karzai has played Obama over signing a piece of paper in order to keep us around and receive more of our money and aid. Don't look good when we say you had better sign or we pull out. All of it. Then repeat that now for a 4th time.

    As in cmon now we aren't kidding we will take our ball and go home. While Karzai laughs and plays pimp.
    So many mistakes in that region from the last two administrations. Putting Afghanistan under NATO command was a stupid idea(Bush), handling of it post Bush is all Obama though and it's only gotten worse. Then Iraq..............General Patreus had the right strategy in gaining the trust of the locals, then when he moves on we scrap it and do what on the surface appears to be nothing more than damage control. I don't get it.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It doesn't help that Karzai has more than likely given the Iranians a list of our How to's. As well as our locations out. Then they can see how Karzai has played Obama over signing a piece of paper in order to keep us around and receive more of our money and aid. Don't look good when we say you had better sign or we pull out. All of it. Then repeat that now for a 4th time.

    As in cmon now we aren't kidding we will take our ball and go home. While Karzai laughs and plays pimp.
    I don't think we should stay past 2014 anyways, so screw Karzai. We can watch as he is removed from power a few years after we leave. By staying, we are just delaying the unavoidable.

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