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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I noticed the same thing.

    Well the Canadian Navy at least picked a good weapon to arm their fleet with.

    I remember some years ago when "Guns and Ammo" ran an article, what was the best infantry rifle ever produced ?

    It wasn't the AK-47 or M-16 and not even the M-1 Garand.

    It came down to the finish line all three nose to nose, the 8 MM Kar M-98 Mauser, 303 Enfield and the 30-06 03 Springfield.

    The final decision was, the M-98 Mauser was a damn good hunting rifle.

    The 03 Springfield was probably the best target rifle ever produced.

    But the 303 Enfield was a true combat infantry rifle and won.
    I had a sporterized one for years I loved. It was excellent. I finally sold it to a fellow that just had to have it. I have a few 30.06's, but they just aren't quite the same as that old thing was, and still is, I'm sure. That 303 was the best all around rifle I've ever owned. If I find another in good shape some time, I may just have to get it in spite of the predictable, "Haven't you spent enough money on guns?" To which I always reply, "And how much do those horses cost, since we're talking money here?" It's a very cheap and dirty shot that works every time. I hate myself sometimes.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Iran is sending 3 boats that likely may not even make it here to float in international waters. You advocate sinking boats in international waters. Using what as your justification and how would that not be seen as an act of war?
    Acts of war have already been committed by The Islamic Republic.

    U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq - CNN.com
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I had a sporterized one for years I loved. It was excellent. I finally sold it to a fellow that just had to have it. I have a few 30.06's, but they just aren't quite the same as that old thing was, and still is, I'm sure. That 303 was the best all around rifle I've ever owned. If I find another in good shape some time, I may just have to get it in spite of the predictable, "Haven't you spent enough money on guns?" To which I always reply, "And how much do those horses cost, since we're talking money here?" It's a very cheap and dirty shot that works every time. I hate myself sometimes.
    I have an uncle who was a professional hunter during the 50's, 60's and early 70's. He was a hunting guide up in the Northern Woods in Wisconsin but also a contract hunter who would hunt down mountain lions and bears that were causing trouble. He would be hired by states fish and game and ranchers throughout America and Canada.

    He wasn't a gun nut but a professional and only owned one high power rifle, a sporterized WW ll surplus 303 Enfield.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Oh, well, since you responded to my rather specific post with a wonderfully vague and non-specific response, of course you must be right. The Iranian Green Movement was led in large part by Mousavi, who had challenged Ahmadinejad in the election and who believed that the landslide result in favor of Ahmadinejad was fraudulent. Mousavi was one of several principal players in the 2009 protests that traced his roots back to the Revolution.



    To the opposition in part and to Iran in general. It would've been like an accusation of national election fraud and widespread GOP demonstrations in 2012 resulting in Vladamir Putin sending Russian troops or even supplies in to support the GOP.



    I'm not making excuses for anyone, I'm pointing out how the situation was far more complex than many seem to think it was. While the United States likes the idea of proper democratic reforms in Iran, and while the Iranian Green Movement liked the idea of proper democratic reforms in Iran, this did not make the Iranian Green Movement a friend to the United States and it did not mean that our help would've either been welcome or, well, helpful.
    It used to be, we'd have a President who would speak out and support any group who wanted freedom, but thats no longer the case with the chump in chief.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    In fact, the Cook is a very special kind of guided missile destroyer. It's the first of four of America's "DDGs" to be outfitted with a new version of the Aegis anti-aircraft defense system, specially designed to shoot down ballistic missiles.
    And it represents the vanguard of America's new Europe-based Ballistic Missile Defense -- a $22 billion, decades-long project to defend against missile strikes from a nuclear-armed Iran.

    Based out of Rota, these four vessels will run rotating patrol assignments -- two ships on patrol, two in port
    Combined with a pair of on-land anti-ballistic missile defense sites to be built in Romania and Poland, Cook will constitute a permanent presence in Europe, guaranteeing the continent's safety against missile strikes by rogue regimes.

    America's Fleet of Missile-Destroying Warships Has Set Sail for Europe, and It's Making Russia Nervous

    Great article, Iran is spending a lot of money for it's "imperial fleet" for no strategic reason. Based off the coast of Spain.

    * posted with thanks to another site for the great knowledge of weapon systems*
    Id like to point out that the US had a missle shield in Poland set up to perform this function (with more effective land-based defensive weaponry) and the chump in chief cancelled the project.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    That guy looks like he's got an old Enfield 303. Nothing to laugh at.
    Absolutely, and at one time Canada's navy was the 4th largest in the world.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In military terms, do you have a clue what "probe" means?
    To her, to "probe" is an investigation to find out where all those evil rich people got their money from-mostly likely by scamming orphans ya know.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    so...just for fun...what justification do you offer for sinking vessels sailing in international waters? And based on your logic, should we be subject to having out vessels attacked when they are in say the Persian Gulf?
    Iran regularly takes small arms pot shots at US merchant and military ships in the straights of hormuz.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I noticed the same thing.

    Well the Canadian Navy at least picked a good weapon to arm their fleet with.

    I remember some years ago when "Guns and Ammo" ran an article, what was the best infantry rifle ever produced ?

    It wasn't the AK-47 or M-16 and not even the M-1 Garand.

    It came down to the finish line all three nose to nose, the 8 MM Kar M-98 Mauser, 303 Enfield and the 30-06 03 Springfield.

    The final decision was, the M-98 Mauser was a damn good hunting rifle.

    The 03 Springfield was probably the best target rifle ever produced.

    But the 303 Enfield was a true combat infantry rifle and won.
    I really want one of the Indian models converted to .308, they are true war pigs.

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    Re: Iran sending warships close to US borders

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Acts of war have already been committed by The Islamic Republic.

    U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq - CNN.com
    That was three years ago and wasn't an act of war. In any case the Iranian government supports the current Iraqi government.

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