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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Whatever pal.
    Eight tours of duty in US embassies abroad have given me a certain familiarity with the work.
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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Eight tours of duty in US embassies abroad have given me a certain familiarity with the work.
    Wow - and I have 15...I guess that means I know better then you.

    BTW - I am also the Postmaster General.


    Even if what you said was true - all that would mean is a) you are clearly biased; and b) it explains your naivety on this.

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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Tin foil hat nonsense.
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    US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, Nuland said: “Since the declaration of Ukrainian independence in 1991, the United States supported the Ukrainians in the development of democratic institutions and skills in promoting civil society and a good form of government - all that is necessary to achieve the objectives of Ukraine’s European. We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. ” Nuland said the United States will continue to “promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”

    "What we are witnessing here is the real, ugly face of American government and its uncouth contempt for international law and norms.

    Next up is Wendy Sherman, the Under Secretary for Political Affairs, who is also Washington's top negotiator in the P5+1 nuclear talks with Iran. Sherman is another flinty-eyed female specimen of the American political class, who, like Nuland, seems to have a block of ice for a heart and a frozen Popsicle for a brain.

    Again, like Nuland, Sherman aims to excel in her political career by sounding even more macho, morose and moronic than her male American peers.

    Last week, Sherman was giving testimony before the US Senate foreign affairs committee on the upcoming negotiations with Iran over the interim nuclear agreement. The panel was chaired by the warmongering Democrat Senator Robert Menendez, who wants to immediately ramp up more sanctions on Iran, as well as back the Israeli regime in any preemptive military strike on the Islamic Republic.

    Sherman's performance was a craven display of someone who has been brainwashed to mouth a mantra of falsehoods with no apparent ability to think for herself. It's scary that such people comprise the government of the most nuclear-armed-and-dangerous state in the world."

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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Wow - and I have 15...I guess that means I know better then you.

    BTW - I am also the Postmaster General.


    Even if what you said was true - all that would mean is a) you are clearly biased; and b) it explains your naivety on this.
    I assure you it's true, and naïveté is the last thing to be derived from that experience.
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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Tin foil hat nonsense.
    Really?

    And where are your links to unbiased factual proof that every single thing he typed was 'nonsense'?

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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I assure you it's true, and naïveté is the last thing to be derived from that experience.
    I assure you your words mean almost nothing to me on this.

    Oh, and btw - I don't believe you.

    But I hope it is true because - like I said - it would explain your position.

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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "

    US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, Nuland said: “Since the declaration of Ukrainian independence in 1991, the United States supported the Ukrainians in the development of democratic institutions and skills in promoting civil society and a good form of government - all that is necessary to achieve the objectives of Ukraine’s European. We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. ” Nuland said the United States will continue to “promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”

    "What we are witnessing here is the real, ugly face of American government and its uncouth contempt for international law and norms.

    Next up is Wendy Sherman, the Under Secretary for Political Affairs, who is also Washington's top negotiator in the P5+1 nuclear talks with Iran. Sherman is another flinty-eyed female specimen of the American political class, who, like Nuland, seems to have a block of ice for a heart and a frozen Popsicle for a brain.

    Again, like Nuland, Sherman aims to excel in her political career by sounding even more macho, morose and moronic than her male American peers.

    Last week, Sherman was giving testimony before the US Senate foreign affairs committee on the upcoming negotiations with Iran over the interim nuclear agreement. The panel was chaired by the warmongering Democrat Senator Robert Menendez, who wants to immediately ramp up more sanctions on Iran, as well as back the Israeli regime in any preemptive military strike on the Islamic Republic.

    Sherman's performance was a craven display of someone who has been brainwashed to mouth a mantra of falsehoods with no apparent ability to think for herself. It's scary that such people comprise the government of the most nuclear-armed-and-dangerous state in the world."
    Yup. Tin foil hat nonsense. I'm curious where you got the $5B figure.
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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I assure you your words mean almost nothing to me on this.

    Oh, and btw - I don't believe you.

    But I hope it is true because - like I said - it would explain your position.
    If you have access to LinkedIn then I'd be happy to PM my name to you so you can look me up.
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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    If you have access to LinkedIn then I'd be happy to PM my name to you so you can look me up.
    Still probably wouldn't believe you...or care that much.

    Anyway...about those links to 'proof' that what DaveFagan typed was 'nonsense'

    If you have all the experience you say that you have...it should be simple to direct us to the evidence that (according to you) backs up this claim of yours.

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    Re: Intercepted Phone Call Shows U.S. Role in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Still probably wouldn't believe you...or care that much.

    Anyway...about those links to 'proof' that what DaveFagan typed was 'nonsense'

    If you have all the experience you say that you have...it should be simple to direct us to the evidence that (according to you) backs up this claim of yours.
    His post is a combination of invective and fiction. There is nothing in the real world that bears on it.

    Note, btw, there is no link in his post.
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