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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't doubt that there may be more corruption in Russia than the US. But don't kid yourself, there's plenty of election fraud in the US and we suffered a terrible decade of senseless war and growth to government unprecedented because of it. But to the op. the Olympics aren't about that. And if we need a corrupt free country to hold them in, then we won't be having them, because even by your inadequate graph, no such country exists. If we have the Olympics in the US, do all the participating countries support the death penalty? Is the largest per capita group of corrupt people in the world residing in the US, or do we just have the largest prison population because our justice system is corrupt? I mean to say, do you want to hold the Olympics, or do you want to criticize Russia??
    I am unaware of any study indicating that election fraud was a significant issue in the US. Not to mention, what ever conspiracy you may dig up, would be compared to a autocrat who's developed a reputation for intimidating, repressing, and even killing his political opposition.

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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If you would do something more than frantically google for some means to undermine the index, you would find out that the only accessible source is a discussion about the merits and fault of the index and hardly defines it as worthless. They also highlight the problem with measurements is largely centered around small poor states, which russia could hardly be described as. Not to mention, the measure of Russia would seemingly correlate with the data that is available publicly and which you tried to already dismiss
    What's your point, Russia is corrupt?? I hope you didn't just learn that Doc. My problem with Car and others is that we are somehow legitimizing the things about Russia we don't like because we're going to the Olympics there, or that athletes should be boycotting them on that basis. IT'S NOT THE TIME DUDE! It's the ****ing Olympics. Athletes are vested, deeply, and they don't have a say in where they are played. I think people need to just leave that out of it. When countries participate in the Olympics when they are held in the US, are they supporting the death penalty??
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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    This confirms what I've been afraid of, he LGBT activist have politicized sex.
    and the people who loose their **** over homosexuality haven't?

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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Maybe if Obama hadn't surrounded himself with incompetent, second rate people in his administration, Putin wouldn't be the most powerful man in the world today.

    But I digress.

    Buggery isn't illegal in Russia. Russia is cracking down on LGBT activist who are trying to force the acceptance of their life style upon the vast majority of the Russian people. Like what has happened in America.

    Here's how far Russia's anti-buggery laws go, they enacted a law in 2013 prohibiting any positive mention of homosexuality in the presence of minors, including online. That's it. otherwise what happens in West Hollywood and San Fransico happens in Moscow or Sochi.

    Below are the countries where buggery is illegal.

    Africa

    1 Algeria
    2 Angola
    3 Benin
    4 Botswana
    5 Burundi
    6 Cameroon
    7 Comoros
    8 Egypt
    9 Eritrea
    10 Ethiopia
    11 Gambia
    12 Ghana
    13 Guinea
    14 Kenya
    15 Lesotho
    16 Liberia
    17 Libya
    18 Malawi (enforcement of law suspended)
    19 Mauritania
    20 Mauritius
    21 Morocco
    22 Mozambique
    23 Namibia
    24 Nigeria
    25 Sao Tome
    26 Senegal
    27 Seychelles
    28 Sierra Leone
    29 Somalia
    30 South Sudan
    31 Sudan
    32 Swaziland
    33 Tanzania
    34 Togo
    35 Tunisia
    36 Uganda
    37 Zambia
    38 Zimbabwe

    Asia, including the Middle East


    39 Afghanistan
    40 Bangladesh
    41 Bhutan
    42 Brunei
    43 India
    44 Iran
    45 Kuwait
    46 Lebanon
    47 Malaysia
    48 Maldives
    49 Myanmar
    50 Oman
    51 Pakistan
    52 Palestine/Gaza Strip
    53 Qatar
    54 Saudi Arabia
    55 Singapore
    56 Sri Lanka
    57 Syria
    58 Turkmenistan
    59 United Arab Emirates
    60 Uzbekistan
    61 Yemen

    Americas

    62 Antigua & Barbuda
    63 Barbados
    64 Belize
    65 Dominica
    66 Grenada
    67 Guyana
    68 Jamaica
    69 St Kitts & Nevis
    70 St Lucia
    71 St Vincent & the Grenadines
    72 Trinidad & Tobago

    Oceania

    73 Cook Islands
    74 Indonesia (Aceh Province and South Sumatra)
    75 Kirbati
    76 Nauru
    77 Palau
    78 Papua New Guinea
    79 Samoa
    80 Solomon Islands
    81 Tonga
    82 Tuvalu

    Europe

    83 Northern Cyprus
    so ignore the bigotry and attacks on free speech made under a false pretenses that telling people about homosexuality and asking them to not be abusive over it = trying to convert people into being gay

    cause other places are worse

    wait that's stupid and evil

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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I agree. The gay community is what, 1.3% of the population? One that "just wants to be equal" but seem to want a whole lot more than 1.3% of the spotlight. It's getting annoying actually. We get it, your gay. Good for you. Now can we get back to everything else?
    im not gay I want them to be equal when that happens every where things will be nice and quite regarding this subject

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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    so your real problem is how russia deals with activists who disagree with the government IN GENERAL, not just for this specific issue. they don't allow peaceful protests against ANY law, not just this one. so nothing special there.

    and if there is a gay person in russia who is in jail JUST for being gay then that is outrageous and wrong. I just haven't heard of any such cases. Feel free to enlighten me.
    if their in jail for just showing the kind of affection hetero sexuals show in public with out any worry or for just talking about being gay or waving a flag around

    its outrageous and wrong and other outrageous and wrong acts in Russia dont make that any less true

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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I am unaware of any study indicating that election fraud was a significant issue in the US. Not to mention, what ever conspiracy you may dig up, would be compared to a autocrat who's developed a reputation for intimidating, repressing, and even killing his political opposition.
    It depends on what one considers significant. Let the republicans tell it and we are rife with voter fraud. But that is the mythical part of the electoral fraud. Annually it's a dozen or so Americans convicted of it, the real problem lies with local, state and federal governments.

    Electorate manipulation
    Manipulation of demography
    Disenfranchisement
    Intimidation
    Vote buying
    Misinformation
    Misleading/confusing ballot papers
    Ballot stuffing
    Mis recording of votes
    Misuse of proxy votes
    Destruction of ballots
    Tampering with electronic voting machines

    All are ways that the electoral process in America is compromised. But if the virtue is, hey we're not as bad as Russia, then indeed, we're in good shape.
    Last edited by Montecresto; 02-07-14 at 08:57 AM.
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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Because it's not my issue. I'm more concerned with things like Constitutional rights and trying to stay ahead of an anti business administration.
    So why don't you just offer the same protections others have and be done with it.

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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    In America it started out that the gay community just wanted states to get rid of their sodomy laws. They said that's all they wanted, nothing more.

    So it happened.

    Then eventually they wanted the whole nine yards.

    So it happened.

    Now they want more than the whole nine yards.
    omg no their going for full justice

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    Re: Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    so ignore the bigotry and attacks on free speech made under a false pretenses that telling people about homosexuality and asking them to not be abusive over it = trying to convert people into being gay

    cause other places are worse

    wait that's stupid and evil
    Don't worry dude, we can be far from a model democracy, but as long as we're better than those we point at, we're in good shape.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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