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  • I live/d in TX and I generally support OC

    11 31.43%
  • I live/d in TX and I generally oppose OC

    3 8.57%
  • I have never lived in TX and I generally support OC

    18 51.43%
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    2 5.71%
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Thread: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I personally think anyone open carrying is compensating for something...
    I admit that there is a TedyBear element in carrying a gun. I feel more relaxed knowing that there's a way to deal with the worst situation should it arise.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I admit that there is a TedyBear element in carrying a gun. I feel more relaxed knowing that there's a way to deal with the worst situation should it arise.
    A situation like a mass shooting? If I'm the shooter and I see your holster, you're my first target. Better that you conceal it so that I won't know you're the guy to go after first.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    See also:

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    Having warded off 2 road-rage incidents with nothing but carrying a gun openly, I support OC. Which ever way this election goes, I hope Texas can join the OC community sooner than later. Think what you will about OC vs. CC, but people should be free to make their own choice imo.
    It's political fluff. TX is full of brain-dead xenophobic right wingers running around and nothing gets them riled up more than gun-friendly talk.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    I strenuously support open and concealed carry, without a permit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A situation like a mass shooting? If I'm the shooter and I see your holster, you're my first target. Better that you conceal it so that I won't know you're the guy to go after first.
    Or, you might not attack because you know that someone is going to shoot back.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, you might not attack because you know that someone is going to shoot back.
    There is no shooting back because I get to shoot first.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, you might not attack because you know that someone is going to shoot back.
    Yeah because mass killers like that are the bastion of rational thinking

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Not on everything. They have strong right to work laws
    "right to work" laws have nothing to do w/a right to work. It's simply a ban on union security agreements, which are voluntary, contractual agreements between a group of workers and an employer--in other words, such laws are an example of government intervention into private agreements (a no-no in a free market).

    Employers who have never signed such an agreement are always free to hire anyone they want even in states with no so-called "right to work" laws. But of course, the uneducated righties that mostly populate the state of TX don't know that, making them easy prey for the stale dishonest rhetoric of pols that promise to enact these anti-market laws.

    TX is also the state that has decided to ban Tesla from directly selling cars to consumers, another anti-freedom, anti-market practice.

    I could list all the other anti-freedom, anti-market measures that the lower-midwestern right wing ****hole has enacted, but it would crash the forum.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It makes you a target during an attack. It would not often be the motivation for the attack in the first place. That does not translate to an expectation of "mass attacks."
    OC is a dumb practice, but govts. shouldn't ban it. And CC is likely to be somewhat more effective in states where it's banned.

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    Re: Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The Open Carry Argument

    First One To Be Shot:
    There are some who criticize open carry and claim it will make you more of a target or ‘the first one shot’ when a robber walks into the 7-11, despite the absolute lack of credible evidence that this has ever happened.

    If the robber walks in and sees that you’re armed, his whole plan has encountered an unexpected variable. In bank robberies where he might expect to see an armed guard he will have already factored that possibility into his plan, but only for the armed guard, not for open or concealed carry citizens. No robber robs a bank without at least a rudimentary plan. Nevertheless, being present for a bank robbery is an extremely remote possibility for most of us regardless of our preferred method of handgun carry, so let’s go back in the 7-11. If the robber sees someone is armed he is forced to either significantly alter the plan or abort it outright. Robbing is an inherently apprehensive occupation, and one that doesn't respond well to instant modifications. He is not prepared to commit murder when he only planned for larceny. He knows that a petty robbery will not garner the intense police manhunt a murder would. He doesn't know if you’re an armed citizen or a police officer and isn't going to take the time to figure it out.

    Either way, if someone in the 7-11 is unexpectedly armed, how many others might be similarly adorned and where might they be? Does this unexpectedly armed individual have a partner who is likewise armed nearby, someone who is watching right now? Self preservation compels him to abort the plan for one that is less risky. So we see that the logic matches the history; open carriers are not the first ones shot because it doesn't make sense in any common street crime scenario that they would be. If your personal self protection plan emphasizes “Hollywood” style crimes over the more realistic street mugging, it might be best to stay home
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    That makes no sense at all. Criminals just do whatever it takes to win. They'll send in some dude into the bank to case the place and they'll know beforehand and prep for it. As soon as the OC dude exits the door, the criminals will pop him and move in.

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