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Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled[W:121]

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Pew: Almost Half of All American Adults Have Smoked Pot « CBS DC

Seeing that 12 percent of adult Americans have tried pot in the past year....and given that that pot can be tested for in urine in one time smokers 7 days later and chronic users 2 plus months later.....it seems that the 1 in 9 stat is just silly.
 
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Yeah keep laughing, those of us that have worked in industry and seen needless lives lost because some dumbass smoked a joint and hour before work will keep reading the obituaries while saying "what a dumbass" to ourselves because the person in question thought pot was harmless.

For someone who claims to have "worked in the industry," you sure are ignorant when it comes to facts concerning marijuana. Even a fool wouldn't deny that whether or not a person has smoked marijuana within a week or more of having a wreck, they would still test positive.

Also, you "working in the industry" means that that shred of objectivity you sometimes have is glaringly absent.
 
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For "statistical" purposes intended to cloud public perception, yes indeed.
Pssssstttt, the information is not for "the public" and their perception....the information was intended to warn smokers so they do not test positive when they anticipate testing - they have a vested interest in information as accurate as possible. They even have a calculator that figures in your use and when to cut off to prevent testing positive.
 
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I thought pot smokers were supposed to be the stupid ones? This article is so blatantly deceptive you can discern what is wrong with it simply by skimming through it.

"Subjects with detectable amounts of marijuana (it can stay in your system up to 45 days after ingesting) in their systems after a fatal accident have tripled from 4% to 12% from 1999 to 2010" would be more accurate. I doubt its a mistake this article just happens to coincide with recent legalization. :roll:

This wasn't a mistake. It is par for the course for Rocketman; if it weren't for lies and deception he would not have anything to post.
 
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Keep thinking that and we (non smokers) will continue reading your obituaries.:2wave:

I have never smoked marijuana, but I support legalizing it 100%. I don't think that this article that you have shared proves that these accidents happened because of marijuana use, and if (in some small chance) these accidents did occur because of marijuana use, they're still significantly less than alcohol use. With that said cannabis can help millions of people with chronic pain, cancer, anxiety, severe migraines, and multiple other illnesses and problems in a natural way, as opposed to becoming addicted to overly priced narcotics offered by doctors that are addictive. Research has actually proven that cannabis use (in all avenues, including cooking) helps to reverse cancer growth and lowers high blood pressure. With everything good there is bad. People will be irresponsible with marijuana in the same way that people are irresponsible with alcohol and prescription drugs.

Story already states what most clear thinking people know without having to read it. I could care less if every weed head died since it would be by their own choice.

You are aware that a good chunk of the population is high all of the time and you have no idea, right? It's an unfortunate stereotype that everyone that uses marijuana becomes stupid when it fact that is 100% false. Besides legalizing marijuana wouldn't mean that you have to use it.

But it's the truth. Marijuana causes a positive urine drug screen for far longer than alcohol or other drugs. Having a positive canibus level doesn't necessarily mean that the driver was high while driving.

I had a very jaded point of view about marijuana a few years ago until I researched it further and realized that we're doing a severe injustice to ourselves by not legalizing, regulating, and selling/taxing it everywhere in this country. I've dealt with people that were high that I wanted to strangle because they made me crazy how incoherent they were, and I've also dealt with people I had no idea were high until I found out later. I then started realizing that these people that annoyed the crap out of me were also flaky and stupid people when they were not high. I wholeheartedly believe is a person by person basis, and not the plant itself.

Yeah keep laughing, those of us that have worked in industry and seen needless lives lost because some dumbass smoked a joint and hour before work will keep reading the obituaries while saying "what a dumbass" to ourselves because the person in question thought pot was harmless.

Good lord, where have you worked? For five and a half years I was a designer for the Sherwin-Williams Paint Company and worked with contractors that were high every single day. I had coworkers that were high every single day and not once did I EVER run into a situation where ANYONE got hurt or hurt someone else because of marijuana. Alcohol, on the other hand, was a different story. What was worse were the Lortab and prescription pills these people were buying off of the street and using. THOSE created the biggest problem. Wherever you worked that had that many casualties because of marijuana must be one hell of a made up place!

And over a period of 25-30 years their critical thinking skills diminish, some die, some become schitzos, others move on to harder drugs. no thank you.

That's a completely inaccurate and false statement based solely off of ill-informed uneducation. That is a damn shame that you're choosing to be so ignorant.
 
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Pssssstttt, the information is not for "the public" and their perception....the information was intended to warn smokers so they do not test positive when they anticipate testing - they have a vested interest in information as accurate as possible. They even have a calculator that figures in your use and when to cut off to prevent testing positive.

 
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blood tests show active use while urine tests, or fatty tissues (where the metabolites tend to concentrate) aren't able to show active use.

That said the sheer amount of toxicology cases would suggest at least a correlation that more and more people are using. It's common sense.

attempts to develop a breathalyzer test are still spotty, but improving; (see link below for details) - there are also field tests, but are not conclusive without finding other evidence

Marijuana Breathalyzer Close to Reality | High Times
What they found was that while every breath sample collected tested positive for THC almost immediately following the participant getting high, the only group to maintain a positive test after four hours were the everyday stoners.
Interestingly, while 90% of the part-time smokers tested positive for THC within an hour of smoking, none of them tested positive after about 90 minutes.

This means that a marijuana breathalyzer manufactured under these principles would only be effective for somewhere between 30 minutes to two hours immediately following a person’s participation in an old-fashioned toke and choke ritual
 
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Ok. I'm sure your making all the right choices and will be here on America's 500th birthday, celebrating.

I won't be leaving 3 kids and my wife because I couldn't leave drugs alone like that dumbass actor did this week. He probably started out as a weed head
 
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I have never smoked marijuana, but I support legalizing it 100%. I don't think that this article that you have shared proves that these accidents happened because of marijuana use, and if (in some small chance) these accidents did occur because of marijuana use, they're still significantly less than alcohol use. With that said cannabis can help millions of people with chronic pain, cancer, anxiety, severe migraines, and multiple other illnesses and problems in a natural way, as opposed to becoming addicted to overly priced narcotics offered by doctors that are addictive. Research has actually proven that cannabis use (in all avenues, including cooking) helps to reverse cancer growth and lowers high blood pressure. With everything good there is bad. People will be irresponsible with marijuana in the same way that people are irresponsible with alcohol and prescription drugs.



You are aware that a good chunk of the population is high all of the time and you have no idea, right? It's an unfortunate stereotype that everyone that uses marijuana becomes stupid when it fact that is 100% false. Besides legalizing marijuana wouldn't mean that you have to use it.



I had a very jaded point of view about marijuana a few years ago until I researched it further and realized that we're doing a severe injustice to ourselves by not legalizing, regulating, and selling/taxing it everywhere in this country. I've dealt with people that were high that I wanted to strangle because they made me crazy how incoherent they were, and I've also dealt with people I had no idea were high until I found out later. I then started realizing that these people that annoyed the crap out of me were also flaky and stupid people when they were not high. I wholeheartedly believe is a person by person basis, and not the plant itself.



Good lord, where have you worked? For five and a half years I was a designer for the Sherwin-Williams Paint Company and worked with contractors that were high every single day. I had coworkers that were high every single day and not once did I EVER run into a situation where ANYONE got hurt or hurt someone else because of marijuana. Alcohol, on the other hand, was a different story. What was worse were the Lortab and prescription pills these people were buying off of the street and using. THOSE created the biggest problem. Wherever you worked that had that many casualties because of marijuana must be one hell of a made up place!



That's a completely inaccurate and false statement based solely off of ill-informed uneducation. That is a damn shame that you're choosing to be so ignorant.

right that is why my wifes son is dead now at 39. He fried his brain on illegal drugs. You can snort this liberal lie all you want, we will be reading about more obituaries as this moves forward. Hide and watch
 
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This wasn't a mistake. It is par for the course for Rocketman; if it weren't for lies and deception he would not have anything to post.

How long have you been a ventriloquist?
 
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For someone who claims to have "worked in the industry," you sure are ignorant when it comes to facts concerning marijuana. Even a fool wouldn't deny that whether or not a person has smoked marijuana within a week or more of having a wreck, they would still test positive.

Also, you "working in the industry" means that that shred of objectivity you sometimes have is glaringly absent.

And I never stated that which makes the above statement a damn lie. I could give a **** what you believe, but I tell you what I will be in a steel mill next Tuesday in Ecorse, MI if you would like to meet me there.
 
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It is silly, but Rocketman saw it on the internet so it must be true.

much like the **** you post here
 
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You know what's not there, whether or not marijuana had anything to do with the crash. Pot says in your system a long time, you could have smoked last week and you'll still test positive. But if you got in a wreck a week after you smoked weed, weed had nothing to do with the accident even though you'll still test positive.

So not a lot of actual information here, just paranoia and hysteria.

Sorry --- you are ill-informed.

"Because marijuana impairs judgment and motor coordination and slows reaction time, an intoxicated person has an increased chance of being involved in and being responsible for an accident.18,19 According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18 percent of motor vehicle driver deaths. A recent survey found that 6.8 percent of drivers, mostly under age 35, who were involved in accidents tested positive for THC; alcohol levels above the legal limit were found in 21 percent of such drivers."

Does marijuana use affect driving? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

You're welcome.
 
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I smoked a ton of weed when I was in my teens and early 20's. I still got the smarts reel good. I've done other hard drugs too. Worst of all was alcohol and cigarettes though. Been completely sober for a few years now, even quit smoking. Of all the things I've done pot is the only one that I don't remember any kind of substantial consequences. When you get really stoned its hard to concentrate and remember things, and I sure wouldn't want people to drive on it. But if I had a choice, I'd rather everyone be stoned than drunk on the road.

your words not mine, case in point
 
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And I never stated that which makes the above statement a damn lie. I could give a **** what you believe, but I tell you what I will be in a steel mill next Tuesday in Ecorse, MI if you would like to meet me there.

Ooooh, a tough guy! :lamo
 
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And I never stated that which makes the above statement a damn lie. I could give a **** what you believe, but I tell you what I will be in a steel mill next Tuesday in Ecorse, MI if you would like to meet me there.

Seriously?!?!
 
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Does it state the method and levels of measurement?

And polydrug use, what combinations? What amounts?

Did the study measure and compare accidents where only active weed use was a factor?

The article doesn't say. There are many questions the article doesn't answer.

yeah and we never here vague statements about anyting in the news when it comes to ACA, the economy, or the misery index:roll:
 
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I love when an OP completely fails before it even goes to two pages. Best part it was destroyed in post two when the common sens and reality based questioned were asked exposing what a complete wast the article is lol.

When those questions get answered then it will be interesting.
 
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Ooooh, a tough guy! :lamo

who said anything about tough, it was an invitation for you to get off your couch and see working people for the first time:lamo
 
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I love when an OP completely fails before it even goes to two pages. Best part it was destroyed in post two when the common sens and reality based questioned were asked exposing what a complete wast the article is lol.

When those questions get answered then it will be interesting.

states a poster the spams the board with numerous threads on the same subject:roll:
 
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states a poster the spams the board with numerous threads on the same subject:roll:

SO you dont have anything to post on topic and cant back up the OP with any supporting facts? lol

got it, let us know when you can post something that can and theres a study that means something, unlike this one.
 
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Seriously?!?!

hey, he doubts what I do, it was simple invite to see it first hand.
 
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SO you dont have anything to post on topic and cant back up the OP with any supporting facts? lol

got it, let us know when you can post something that can and theres a study that means something, unlike this one.

Please carry on with your spam on the threads you create on the same subject and don't trash others.
 
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hey, he doubts what I do, it was simple invite to see it first hand.

Oh, ok gotcha.
 
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